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English translation: propaedeutic phase, post-propaedeutic phase

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Dutch term or phrase:	propedeutische fase, postpropedeutische fase
English translation:	propaedeutic phase, post-propaedeutic phase

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12:04 Jan 18, 2010

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Education / Pedagogy

Dutch term or phrase: propedeutische fase, postpropedeutische fase

These terms appear on our Dutch certificates and diplomas. For our English diplomas we need a translation for these terms to make a distinction between the subjects taught in the first year of the programme and in the main phase. Is it right to simply say propedeutic phase and postpropedeutic phase?

Hannelore Wagemakers

propaedeutic phase, post-propaedeutic phase

Explanation:
Nederlandse Hoger Onderwijs Termen in het Engels, Nuffic, Den Haag, 1994: propadeuse diploma = propaedeutic certficate. "Persons wishing to enrol for the *post-propaedeutic* part of a study programme must have a certificate showing that they have passed the propaedeutic examination for that programme or a related programme."

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http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/propaedeutic

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Jack den Haan
Netherlands
Local time: 12:39

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propaedeutic phase, post-propaedeutic phase

Jack den Haan

4 +1

foundation phase, post-foundation phase

Marijke Singer

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Discussion entries: 1

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36 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

foundation phase, post-foundation phase

Explanation:
See the following websites:
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=30780&dict=CA...
"foundation course noun
n [C] UK (US introductory course)
a college or university course that introduces students to a subject and prepares them for studying it at a higher level "

http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/foundation-course
"foundation course [countable] British English
a general course of study that introduces students to a subject, and is taught in the first year at some universities in Britain"

Marijke Singer
United Kingdom
Local time: 11:39
Native speaker of:

English,

Spanish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Barend van Zadelhoff: Dit is de gangbare term. Je kunt die eventueel specificeren met bv "12-months": 12-months foundation phase. // In reactie op Nuffic: de verdere informatie op het diploma zal zeer waarschijnlijk aangeven dat het om hoger onderwijs gaat.

51 mins

-> Thanks, Barend!

neutral

Chris Hopley: Nuffic: "Do not use the term 'foundation year' because this is used in many countries for a preparatory year, whereas in the Netherlands the propedeuse is part of the degree programme." http://nufficglossary.nuffic.nl/ // See previous Kudoz entries.

52 mins

-> I did the foundation year at the Open University and this was the first year of a Maths degree. After the foundation year, I did another 2 years to complete the BA. The foundation year did count towards the degree.

10 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +5

propaedeutic phase, post-propaedeutic phase

Jack den Haan
Netherlands
Local time: 12:39
Native speaker of:

Dutch,

English
PRO pts in category: 65

Grading comment

Thanks very much, you have really helped us out!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Kate Hudson

12 mins

-> Thanks, Kate.

agree

Chris Hopley: HOT no longer in print, but now online: http://nufficglossary.nuffic.nl/

1 hr

-> Thanks, Chris. Looks like I can recover some bookshelf space ;-)

agree

Kitty Brussaard

1 hr

-> Thanks, Kitty.

neutral

Barend van Zadelhoff: Je zult de term "propaedeutic phase" in verband met "university" in het VK nergens tegenkomen terwijl dat met "foundation phase" wel degelijk het geval is. Of is dat niet waar het om gaat? // Yes, context, target audience, etc. :-) Anyway, thank you.

2 hrs

-> Als de Nuffic-glossary (niet de eerste-de-beste publicatie op het gebied van hogeronderwijstermen) expliciet waarschuwt tegen het gebruik van 'foundation' in deze context, zou ik me daar bij neerleggen. De term moet natuurlijk wel de lading dekken ;-)

agree

Sindy Cremer

4 hrs

-> Thanks, Sindy.

agree

Tina Vonhof: I always use this term, even though it is not well-known here. Foundation phase has a different meaning, and is more likely used in relation to elementary education.

1 day5 hrs

-> Thanks, Tina. This would seem to support the warning the Nuffic glossary gives about using the term 'foundation phase'.

Reference comments

1 hr peer agreement (net): +1

Reference

Reference information:
Pro`pae`deu´tics
n. 1. The preliminary learning connected with any art or science; preparatory instruction.
Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, published 1913 by C. & G. Merriam Co.
propaedeutics
the basic principles and rules preliminary to the study of an art or science. — propaedeutic, propaedeutical, adj.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/propaedeutics

writeaway
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