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English translation: finger food

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Dutch term or phrase:	bittergarnituur
English translation:	finger food
Entered by:	Frank Poppelaars

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12:03 Feb 17, 2010

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Food & Dairy

Dutch term or phrase: bittergarnituur

Ik kan maar niet vinden wat dit in het Engels is. Hieronder context (hotel):

Bittergarnituren

Een hartige onderbreking of afsluiting van uw bijeenkomst. Wij serveren uw bittergarnituur graag voor u in de zaal, in XX's Bar of bij mooi weer op ons terras bij XX.

Alle bittergarnituren worden geserveerd met een assortiment luxe zoutjes en nootjes.

Frank Poppelaars KudoZ activity Questions: 53 (none open) Answers: 31 Netherlands
Local time: 09:02

finger food

Explanation:
Nothing wrong with appetizers, but this could be an alternative

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&num=50&q=finger foods&...

Selected response from:

Sindy Cremer
Ireland
Local time: 08:02

Grading comment

Ik vond het moeilijk kiezen. "Savoury snacks" staat in de Van Dale als "zoutjes" en ik zie ook alleen maar zoutjes e.d. op google afbeeldingen. Ik vond "deep-fried finger food" goed maar deze specifieke bittergarnituren bevatte niet enkel gefrituurde hapjes. Hors d'oeuvres klinkt misschien net iets te fancy voor bitterballen e.d., maar is ook een goede suggestie. Appetizers zie ik inderdaad eerder voor de maaltijd genuttigd worden en dat was hier niet het geval. "Finger food" vond ik daarom nog het best passen voor dit stuk. In ieder geval allen bedankt voor de suggesties!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

4 +5

savoury snacks

David Walker

4 +2

appetizers

Yvonne Overheul

hors d'oeuvres

Tina Vonhof

deep-fried snacks

wordtranslator

finger food

Sindy Cremer

deep-fried finger food

Chris Hopley

Answers

10 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +5

savoury snacks

Explanation:
Have translated it as such before without complaint or comment

David Walker
Netherlands
Local time: 09:02
Native speaker of:

English

Notes to answerer

Asker: Ik heb net ook "zoutjes" vertaald in hetzelfde stuk, en Van Dale geeft hiervoor ook "savoury snacks". De gasten moeten wel weten dat het om iets anders gaat natuurlijk...

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Olly Pekelharing: zoutjes would be crisps and such wouldn't they?

24 mins

-> Agreed - mini-chips, savoury biscuits, salted bread twists etc.

agree

Toiny Van der Putte-Rademakers: Dit lijkt me de beste vertaling. Appetizers eet je vóór een maaltijd. Van Dale GWNT: · kaaskoekjes, zoute koekjes, stukjes kaas, bitterballen enz. die bij het borrelen genuttigd worden.

1 hr

-> Thanks

agree

Siobhan Schoonhoff-Reilly

2 hrs

-> Thanks

agree

L.J.Wessel van Leeuwen: The English "smakelijk -savoury" is more appetising to me than de "bitterheid..."

3 hrs

-> Thanks

agree

Emma Ashfield - MCIL: Yes, this is good because you can get these in pubs with a beer rather than as a first course to a meal.

2 days21 hrs

-> Thanks

15 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

appetizers

Explanation:
ik zag idd dat savouries in de buurt komt, maar in de Van Dale is ook deze vertaling gegeven..

Yvonne Overheul
Italy
Local time: 09:02
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Dutch

Notes to answerer

Asker: zou je hier eventueel "assorted appetizers" van maken?

38 mins confidence:

finger food

Explanation:
Nothing wrong with appetizers, but this could be an alternative

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&num=50&q=finger foods&...

Sindy Cremer
Ireland
Local time: 08:02
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Dutch
PRO pts in category: 4

Grading comment

38 mins confidence:

deep-fried finger food

Explanation:
I would call this 'deep-fried finger food' or 'deep-fried snacks'. The important thing that sets bittergarnituur apart from other types of party nibbles is that it has been prepared by deep-frying. They are also mouth-sized as you have to be able to hold them in one hand while you hold a glass in the other!

An 'appetizer' precedes the first course of a meal ('amuse' in Dutch), whereas bittergarnituur does not. 'Savoury snacks' is very general and could, IMO, refer to any type of snack that isn't sweet: crisps, nuts, zoutjes, bittergarnituur, etc., etc.

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Note added at 58 mins (2010-02-17 13:01:55 GMT)
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Coming back to Sindy's comment, it appears that bittergarnituur often includes hot and cold snacks. But not always. Some caterers make a distinction, e.g.:
"Bittergarnituur
Assortiment van warme gefrituurde mini hapjes inclusief sausjes. Minimale afname 50 stuks.
Standaard koude hapjes
Assortiment eenvoudige koude hapjes
Luxe koude hapjes
Gevarieerd assortiment luxe gegarneerde koude hapjes..."
http://www.debrunch.nl/shop/N_frame.html?http://www.debrunch...

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Note added at 1 hr (2010-02-17 13:54:32 GMT)
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@Frank: sounds delicious :-)

Chris Hopley
Netherlands
Local time: 09:02
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 16

Notes to answerer

Asker: Er worden 2 verschillende bittergarnituren aangeboden: [1] Toastje met huisgerookte zalm, Boerenkazen, Salami, Kalfsvleesbitterballen, Kleine kaassoufflés, Gebakken gamba, Groentenkroket. [2] Assortiment sushi, Gefrituurde wonton, Mini loempia, Kip Yakatori, Gebakken gamba ‘Oriëntaal’.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

neutral

Sindy Cremer: Bittergarnituur can be anything from cheese to bitterballen to fancy snacks, it need not necessarily be deep-fried. // ...hm, misschien woon ik al te lang tussen de schapen :-))) !

6 mins

-> Mijn ervaring is anders, maar dan ga ik waarschijnlijk steeds naar de verkeerde borrels... ;-)

disagree

Toiny Van der Putte-Rademakers: A "bittergarnituur" consists of deep-fried snacks among other things, but is not limited to them. Van Dale GWNT says: kaaskoekjes, zoute koekjes, stukjes kaas, bitterballen enz. die bij het borrelen genuttigd worden. Van Dale N-E: "assorted appetizers."

48 mins

-> As I said, my experience is otherwise. Apparently I go to different borrels than the compilers of Van Dale... :-)

agree

Kitty Brussaard: Ik bezoek klaarblijkelijk hetzelfde type borrels want bij 'bittergarnituur' denk ik ook vooral aan gefrituurde borrelhapjes zoals bitterballen, vlammetjes, mini-loempia's etc. Maar in deze context zou ik dit formuleren als: (deep-fried) finger food

1 hr

-> Thanks, Kitty. Apparently there are two schools of thought on this one :-)

2 hrs confidence:

deep-fried snacks

Explanation:
A plate of cheese, peanuts, crisps etc. would also be referred to as savoury snacks, but these would be referred to as 'borrelhapjes' rather than 'bittergarnituur'.

I think of bittergarnituur as bitterbollen, kaassouffles. mini loempjes, vlaametjes, etc and these are always deep fried and (mostly) served warm.

wordtranslator
Netherlands
Local time: 09:02
Native speaker of:

English

9 hrs confidence:

hors d'oeuvres

Explanation:
Appetizers kan heel goed bij de borrel, ze hoeven niet persé aan een maaltijd vooraf te gaan. Maar ook heel gebruikelijk, in Noord Amerika althans, is 'hors d'oeuvres', een term die helemaal ingeburgerd is in het Engels. Deze kunnen zowel warm als koud zijn en eventueel ook 'deep fried'.

Reference: http://www.epicurious.com/tools/browseresults?type=browse&at...

Tina Vonhof
Local time: 01:02
Native speaker of:

Dutch,

English

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