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de kiem en angel voor verandering

English translation: the origin and impetus for change

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Dutch term or phrase:	de kiem en angel voor verandering
English translation:	the origin and impetus for change
Entered by:	Sindy Cremer

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14:53 Jan 28, 2010

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Dutch term or phrase: de kiem en angel voor verandering

[onderzoekers] menen dat dit (i.e. fulfilment) de kiem en angel is voor verandering.

Jacqueline Sieben KudoZ activity Questions: 51 (none open) (2 without valid answers) Answers: 8
Local time: 07:30

the origin and impetus for change

Explanation:
kiem -> origin
angel -> stimulus -> impetus

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or "cause and impetus"
or "basis and impetus"

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Note added at 1 day3 hrs (2010-01-29 18:12:16 GMT)
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Or maybe simply "the beginning and the end"?

With no context to go on....

Selected response from:

Sindy Cremer
Ireland
Local time: 06:30

Grading comment

Thanks Sindy!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

3 +2

the origin and impetus for change

Sindy Cremer

the core reason for change

Real Zeal

both an opportunity and a threat for change

Olly Pekelharing

the seed and sting in change

Barend van Zadelhoff

Discussion entries: 2

Answers

9 mins confidence:

the core reason for change

Explanation:
Kiem is a seed, so it sounds like they're saying the key reason, the core reason, the fundamental reason.

Real Zeal
New Zealand
Local time: 17:30
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 4

9 mins confidence:

both an opportunity and a threat for change

Explanation:
to use a little swot analysis...

Olly Pekelharing
Local time: 07:30
Native speaker of:

English

39 mins confidence:

the seed and sting in change

Explanation:
Informatie en feiten vertellen wat er aan de hand is, maar alleen het patroon van oorzaken en effecten helpt u te begrijpen waarom de dingen zijn zoals ze zijn. En dat geeft zicht op de angel of de kiem van het vraagstuk.
De angel refereert aan welke patronen ervoor zorgen dat verbeteren zo moeilijk is. De kiem duidt op een mogelijk aangrijpingspunt voor verbetering

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of

the seed and sting in the possibility of change, if you like

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Longman

seed - something that makes a new situation start to grow and develop

seeds of change/victory

The seeds of change in Eastern Europe were beginning to emerge.

sting - the upsetting or bad effect of a situation

take the sting out of something

Barend van Zadelhoff
Netherlands
Local time: 07:30
Native speaker of:

Dutch
PRO pts in category: 12

8 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

the origin and impetus for change

Sindy Cremer
Ireland
Local time: 06:30
Native speaker of:

Dutch
PRO pts in category: 8

Grading comment

Thanks Sindy!

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Jan 31, 2010 - Changes made by Sindy Cremer:
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