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daar geen inkomsten uit derft

English translation: does not get an income from it

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Dutch term or phrase:	daar geen inkomsten uit derft
English translation:	does not get an income from it
Entered by:	Lucy Simpson

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12:18 Nov 16, 2004

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Dutch term or phrase: daar geen inkomsten uit derft

This is to do with a person who is accounting where his money comes from. He has a job on the side that he makes money from and then says:
Hij heeft een eigen bedrijf maar daar geen inkomsten uit derft.
I'm not quite sure what he means. By the way, the 'eigen bedrijf' and the job on the side are not related.

Lucy Simpson KudoZ activity Questions: 661 (none open) (6 without valid answers) Answers: 107
Local time: 11:46

does not get an income from it

Explanation:
I agree with Vixen's grammatical correction, but not with her translation/interpretation of the sentence in this context. Although according to the dictionary 'derven' indeed translates to 'miss out on', in spoken language Dutch people regularly tend to misuse this word. When someone says "ik derf geen inkomsten uit mijn bedrijf", he usually means to say that he does not make any money of it. Therefor, I would translate this sentence to: He says he has a company of his own, but does not get an income from it.

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Joost Simons
Local time: 12:46

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Ah, now this would make sense. It's what I put initially, but no dictionary would bear out my gut instinct.
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miss out on income

vixen

does not get an income from it

Joost Simons

loss of income

xxxjarry

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5 mins confidence:

loss of income

Explanation:
Inkomstenderving is loss of income. The sentence as such does not make much sense, however. Probably a word or phrase missing.

xxxjarry
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Local time: 12:46
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6 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

miss out on income

Explanation:
Derven in this context means 'mislopen'.
In other words, he does not miss out on any income from his own business as a result of his other job.

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As Jarry rightly pointed out, the sentence is not gramatically correct. It should be probably be either:
Hij heeft een eigen bedrijf maar derft daar geen inkomsten uit.
or
Hij zegt dat hij een eigen bedrijf heeft maar daar geen inkomsten uit derft.

vixen
Local time: 13:46
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Dutch
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does not get an income from it

Joost Simons
Local time: 12:46
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Ah, now this would make sense. It's what I put initially, but no dictionary would bear out my gut instinct.

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