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Music | | Dutch term or phrase: verdeelde | Text describing various African musical instruments.
De dawuru-bel speelt een ostinatofiguur die bestaat uit een ternair *verdeelde* thesis en een binair *verdeelde* arsis. Dit ritmische patroon wordt constant aangehouden met weinig variaties.
Can ‘verdeelde’ be (sensibly) rendered as ‘meter’ here? i.e. a triple meter strong beat and a duple meter weak beat |
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| | English translation:consists of a compound thesis (subdivided into 3 parts) and a simple arsis (subdivided into 2 parts) | Explanation:
This concerns an asymmetric meter with a a thesis/accented beat/downbeat subdivided into 3 parts and an arsis/unaccented beat/upbeat subdivided into 2 parts (something like 3+2/8, except that it's an ostinato).
compound beat division of the beat into 3 equal parts
simple beat division of the beat into 2 equal parts
http://www.dolmetsch.com/musictheory40.htm
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Note added at 1 hr (2006-08-29 11:45:03 GMT)
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sorry, it's not an asymmetric meter but an asymmetric rhythmic pattern
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Note added at 1 day9 mins (2006-08-30 10:35:17 GMT)
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Saitch, I'm afraid this has nothing to do with triplets and 8th notes but with beats divided into sub-beats. In Western notation, these could be represented by quarter notes subdivided into 8th-note triplets and two 8ths, or by half notes divided into quarter-note triplets and two quarters, or by 16th notes subdivided into.... You can't assume the music is in 4/4 as this time signature is not even used in African music, which is typically polymetric/asymmetric. In any case, the easiest and shortest and most musically accurate way to express this is by using the words 'compound' and 'simple', or 'beats subdivided into 2/3 parts'. |
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1 hr confidence: peer agreement (net): +1 consists of a compound thesis (subdivided into 3 parts) and a simple arsis (subdivided into 2 parts)
Explanation:
This concerns an asymmetric meter with a a thesis/accented beat/downbeat subdivided into 3 parts and an arsis/unaccented beat/upbeat subdivided into 2 parts (something like 3+2/8, except that it's an ostinato).
compound beat division of the beat into 3 equal parts
simple beat division of the beat into 2 equal parts
http://www.dolmetsch.com/musictheory40.htm
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Note added at 1 hr (2006-08-29 11:45:03 GMT)
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sorry, it's not an asymmetric meter but an asymmetric rhythmic pattern
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Note added at 1 day9 mins (2006-08-30 10:35:17 GMT)
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Saitch, I'm afraid this has nothing to do with triplets and 8th notes but with beats divided into sub-beats. In Western notation, these could be represented by quarter notes subdivided into 8th-note triplets and two 8ths, or by half notes divided into quarter-note triplets and two quarters, or by 16th notes subdivided into.... You can't assume the music is in 4/4 as this time signature is not even used in African music, which is typically polymetric/asymmetric. In any case, the easiest and shortest and most musically accurate way to express this is by using the words 'compound' and 'simple', or 'beats subdivided into 2/3 parts'.
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| | Grading comment | Thanks a lot, Fiona. Would never have got there by myself. |
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