agogisch

English translation: agogic work

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Dutch term or phrase:agogisch werk
English translation:agogic work
Entered by: Frank van Thienen (X)

17:10 Mar 15, 2011
Dutch to English translations [PRO]
Science - Psychology / education
Dutch term or phrase: agogisch
"Agogical" is the easy way out, but I'd like to find a suitable alternative.

Context: diploma en cijferlijst van "MIDDELBAAR DIENSTVERLENINGS- EN GEZONDHEIDSZORGONDERWIJS, afdeling Agogisch werk (m.d.g.o.-AW), Studierichting(en): Semiresidentieel en residentieel werk (m.d.g.o.-AW/RW);

"agogisch werk"
"Achtergronden van opvattingen over en doelstellingen van het agogisch werk"
"Beroepsmatig handelen in het agogisch werk"

vakken: omgangskunde, psychologie, pedagogiek, gezondheidskunde, huishoudkunde, handenarbeid, tekenen, muziek, voordrachtskunst, sport en spel.

"Agogisch" lijkt een typisch Hollandse term te zijn, aangezien zelfs alle gevallen van het Engelse "agogical" ook naar Nederlandse websites leiden.

Agogisch werk is, gebaseerd op wat ik nu weet, werk met geestelijk gestoorden (mentally chalenged).
Frank van Thienen (X)
Canada
Local time: 01:21
agogic
Explanation:
"Social-agogic work" seems a rather common expression which is also used on websites not originally written in Dutch. So you could translate "agogisch werk" simply as "agogic work", I think.
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solejnicz
Netherlands
Local time: 09:21
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Thank you, solejnicz!
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Summary of answers provided
4PSE work
Textpertise
4andragogical
Lianne van de Ven
3agogic
solejnicz
Summary of reference entries provided
van dalen
katja van hellemond

Discussion entries: 3





  

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22 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
agogisch work
PSE work


Explanation:
Although PSE may only be compulsory in Wales, it is widespread in other parts of the UK as well. Although Wikipedia renders it as Personal and Social Education, I have also heard of it referred to as Personal, Social and Emotional well-being.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_and_Social_Education

PSE work is typically done in small groups.

Textpertise
United Kingdom
Local time: 08:21
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 12
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Asker: Thanks, textpertise!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  solejnicz: But is this term also used for things outside the UK?
15 hrs
  -> Link re Malta: http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~db=all~content=a783... and another link for Paris http://www.isparis.edu/page.cfm?p=479
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16 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
agogic


Explanation:
"Social-agogic work" seems a rather common expression which is also used on websites not originally written in Dutch. So you could translate "agogisch werk" simply as "agogic work", I think.

solejnicz
Netherlands
Local time: 09:21
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench, Native in DutchDutch
PRO pts in category: 4
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20 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
andragogical


Explanation:
Volgens mij is agogisch dikwijls/in de praktijk een verkorte vorm van andragogisch.

http://www.encyclo.nl/begrip/agogie
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andragogy
http://www-distance.syr.edu/andraggy.html

Would avoid agogical:
http://www.encyclo.co.uk/define/agogical

Eventueel (afh van context) social work
sociaal-agogisch werk
De opleiding sociaal werk behoort tot het studiegebied sociaal-agogisch werk. Daarbinnen bestaan er volgende professionele bacheloropleidingen: sociaal werk, toegepaste psychologie, orthopedagogie, maatschappelijke veiligheid, gezinswetenschappen en readaptatiewetenschappen (te erkennen door de Vlaamse regering in 2011 na een eventuele positieve procedure bij de NVAO (Nederlands-Vlaams Accreditatieorgaan). De opleiding sociaal werk telt 5 afstudeerrichtingen:
maatschappelijk werk
maatschappelijke advisering
personeelswerk
sociaal-cultureel werk
syndicaal werk
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maatschappelijk_assistent

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http://www.uni-bamberg.de/fileadmin/andragogik/08/andragogik...
http://www.woorden.org/woord/andragogie
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/-agogy
http://www.bookrags.com/tandf/agogy-tf/

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First was pedagogy, and then came andragogy
http://www.einstein.yu.edu/uploadedFiles/EJBM/21Ozuah83.pdf

Andragogy is the study of how adults learn.39 (Andragogy is distinguished
from pedagogy—peda meaning child, andra meaning adult.)
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.129...

PS: agogisch werk is niet beperkt tot werken met learning differences/mentally challenged etc.


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Klik op deze link en zoek in het googleboek voor 'agogisch'.
Besluit Onderwijsbevoegdheden WVO/OWVO: regeling bewijzen van bekwaamheid etc.
Daar wordt duidelijk gezegd (p 71) 'specifieke bewijzen van bekwaamheid op agogisch (andragogisch, pedagogisch) gebied'
http://is.gd/T3KsSz

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ps: en op blz 78 (318 van het echte boek) staan de specifieke bekwaamheden uitgespeld.

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Note added at 2 days35 mins (2011-03-17 17:46:24 GMT) Post-grading
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I understand the choice of agogy, that would be straight forward. You may just wonder what the purpose is if the term is not understood in another language, so I was trying to make the point that this is a useful alternative.

Lianne van de Ven
United States
Local time: 04:21
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch
PRO pts in category: 4
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks, Lianne!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  philgoddard: Your explanation is helpful, but I don;t agree with your answer. Andragogy is one person's theory about adult education - it's just a word that looks a bit similar to "agogisch".
53 mins
  -> I see what you are saying, but I think that's too limited a view.

agree  Barend van Zadelhoff: Right, mostly refers to andragogy, which can be defined as: student-centred teaching. Justice is done a little bit late. :-)
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Reference comments


10 mins peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: van dalen

Reference information:
Van Dalen geeft de volgende omschrijving voor agogie: social science relating to the promotion of personal, social and cultural welfare.
Het is inderdaad een typisch Nederlands woord, je zult een omschrijving moeten gebruiken lijkt me.

katja van hellemond
Portugal
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch
PRO pts in category: 4
Note to reference poster
Asker: Thanks, Katja!


Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  philgoddard: That's very helpful, but there must be a more concise way of saying it than Van Dale's version!
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