...when he started pledging.

English translation: swearing an oath

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English term or phrase:	pledging.
Selected answer:	swearing an oath
Entered by:	Annika Neudecker

19:01 Aug 3, 2004

English language (monolingual) [PRO]
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English term or phrase: ...when he started pledging.

Related to a Fraternity:
If pledge Susan is "Aspirante Susan", how do you translate
"During pledging...."
Thank you very much.

Lili Fleischer

Swearing an oath

Explanation:
Lili, do you just need an English explanation?

"Pledging" in a fraternity means to swear an oath, to "pledge allegiance", for example, means to swear that one is going to be devoted or faithful to something...

During pledging: While swearing an oath (promising to be faithful to the fraternity)

Selected response from:

Annika Neudecker
Germany
Local time: 04:23

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4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED

4 +9

Swearing an oath

Annika Neudecker

3 +1

promessa de associação

Clauwolf

pagar la novatada / gastar novatadas

Refugio

4 -1

At the time of pledging

Ramesh Madhavan

Discussion entries: 1

Answers

6 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

promessa de associação

Explanation:
:) Literal

Clauwolf
Local time: 23:23
Native speaker of:

Portuguese
PRO pts in category: 4

15 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +9

Swearing an oath

Annika Neudecker
Germany
Local time: 04:23
Works in field
Native speaker of: German
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Kurt Porter

4 mins

-> Thanks :-)

agree

Elena Petelos

6 mins

-> Thanks :-)

agree

Vicky Papaprodromou

19 mins

-> Thanks :-)

agree

Valentina Pecchiar

34 mins

-> Thanks :-)

disagree

Refugio: If you believe that "swearing an oath" is equivalent to US fraternity "pledging", how do you account for the fact that it takes a week ("pledge week")?

1 hr

-> I agree. "Pledging" to become a member of a fraternity/sorority is often an ordeal. But it still doesn't negate the fact that is "swearing an oath" - regardless of whether it's a good or bad thing the prospective members are swearing to.

agree

Asghar Bhatti

2 hrs

-> Thanks :-)

agree

Eva Karpouzi

5 hrs

-> Thanks :-)

agree

Saleh Chowdhury, Ph.D.

6 hrs

-> Thanks :-)

agree

chica nueva: during the pledging ceremony/process

6 hrs

-> Thanks :-)

agree

Rajan Chopra

6 hrs

-> Thanks :-)

neutral

Mikhail Kropotov: I agree with Ruth's interpretation. pledging in a fraternity/sorority is the process of initiation into the society (read 'a humiliating and degrading act of conformism')

2 days 12 hrs

-> Yes, it is. "Pledging" to become a member of a fraternity/sorority is often a humiliating ordeal and an act of conformism. But it is still "swearing an oath" regardless of whether it's a good or bad thing the prospective members are swearing to.

agree

Liliana Garfunkel

3 days 15 hrs

-> Thanks :-)

12 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

At the time of pledging

Explanation:
I don't think we are talking about oaths or swearing here. Pledge also means "something that you give as a sign that you will keep a promise" I pledge my car for a loan. I am pledging my diamond ring for $5,000 etc...etc... The 'Pledge' meaning oath or swearing is a noun!

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Note added at 12 hrs 16 mins (2004-08-04 07:18:23 GMT)
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http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=Ple...

Reference: http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=60761&dict=CA...

Ramesh Madhavan
Local time: 07:53
Native speaker of:

English,

Tamil
PRO pts in category: 4

3 hrs confidence:

pledging pagar la novatada / gastar novatadas

Explanation:
Assuming, from your other question on oath paddle, that you want the Spanish.
See:
http://remus.rutgers.edu/~tiberias/zbt/nopledge.htm

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Note added at 5 days (2004-08-08 19:30:55 GMT) Post-grading
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Another interesting little sideline:

<<Cartoonist Garry Trudeau, who has skewered politicians for decades in his comic strip \"Doonesbury,\" tells Rolling Stone magazine he remembers Yale classmate George W. Bush as \"just another sarcastic preppy who gave people nicknames and arranged for keg deliveries.\"

Trudeau attended Yale University with Bush in the late 1960s and served with him on a dormitory social committee.

\"Even then he had clearly awesome social skills,\" Trudeau said. \"He could also make you feel extremely uncomfortable ... He was extremely skilled at controlling people and outcomes in that way. Little bits of perfectly placed humiliation.\"

Trudeau said he penned his very first cartoon to illustrate an article in the Yale Daily News on Bush and allegations that his fraternity, DKE, had hazed incoming pledges by branding them with an iron.

The article in the campus paper prompted The New York Times to interview Bush, who was a senior that year. Trudeau recalled that Bush told the Times \"it was just a coat hanger, and ... it didn\'t hurt any more than a cigarette burn.\"

\"It does put one in mind of what his views on torture might be today,\" Trudeau said.>>

Refugio
Local time: 19:23
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 11

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