alternate display

English translation: other display

15:58 Aug 9, 2004

English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Electronics / Elect Eng

English term or phrase: alternate display

compressor controls

Press the [STOP/RESET] key at any time to stop the compressor under normal conditions. If the compressor has been running, the reservoir will first be relieved of pressure before stopping the motor. The display will count down to zero during the normal stop

***If any alternate display is on***, press the operating mode key to return to the "normal" display. While operating and running, the unit may be manually unloaded by pressing and holding the operating mode key. This unloads a running compressor after several seconds, and will prevent loading while the key is held down. When the key is released, the control will resume its normal operation as required

can you confifrm that alternate display means any text which is displayed alternately with other text, and not "an alternative display intended as monitor)... or any I mistaken?
thanks!

Elena Ghetti KudoZ activity Questions: 2611 (4 open) (30 without valid answers) (3 closed without grading) Answers: 2529 Italy
Local time: 08:38

Selected answer:other display

Explanation:
The source is very bad English. "Alternate" is inappropriate for a couple of reasons.

In careful usage at least, in both UK and US (although sadly less often in the latter), "alternate" means "every second", as in "write your answer on alternate lines", which means "write on every second line", i.e. leave one line blank after every line you write on. People are using "alternate" more and more where they mean "alternative" (i.e. some other, a different option).

Even "alternative" here, although not wrong, is less idiomatic and more pretentious than "other", which, from the context, appears to be what is meant.

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Note added at 2 hrs 19 mins (2004-08-09 18:18:21 GMT)
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PS re-reading your question, I note that you have a better grasp of the distinction between \"alternate\" and \"alternative\" than the author of your text. If \"alternate\" were actually meant, there could be only one \"alternate\" display, and so \"any\" would be in appropriate.

Selected response from:

Richard Benham
France
Local time: 08:38

Grading comment

thanks for the explanation and thanks everybody who answered!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED

5 +4

another text

Hervé du Verle

4 +3

other display

Richard Benham

other type of display

Clauwolf

There is a single monitor (no alternate monitor), you can monitor different parameters on it......

Saleh Chowdhury, Ph.D.

If any alternate display method is on.. If any alternate display mode is selected

airmailrpl

alternate mode of display

jlm

alternate menu of the same display window

Roddy Stegemann

Answers

2 mins confidence:

other type of display

Explanation:
:)

Clauwolf
Local time: 03:38
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Portuguese
PRO pts in category: 34

4 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +4

another text

Explanation:
Indeed, it means displaying any other information while in activity, press the key to return to "normal'

Hervé du Verle
Local time: 02:38
Native speaker of:

French

4 mins confidence:

alternate mode of display

Explanation:
It refers to an alternate mode of display, ie same monitor, different type of info...

jlm
Local time: 07:38
Native speaker of:

Spanish

8 mins confidence:

There is a single monitor (no alternate monitor), you can monitor different parameters on it......

Explanation:
There is a single monitor (no alternate monitor), you can monitor different parameters on it (you can change the display).

Saleh Chowdhury, Ph.D.
Bangladesh
Local time: 12:38
Native speaker of:

Bengali
PRO pts in category: 6

2 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

other display

Richard Benham
France
Local time: 08:38
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 16

Grading comment

thanks for the explanation and thanks everybody who answered!

3 mins confidence:

If any alternate display method is on.. If any alternate display mode is selected

Explanation:
***If any alternate display is on***, press the operating mode key to return to the "normal" display

If any alternate display method is on.. If any alternate display mode is selected

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Note added at 17 days (2004-08-27 06:18:22 GMT) Post-grading
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airmailrpl: pretended or unpretended => or pretentious?? [Edit / delete] 3 days 17 hrs 21 mins > I have always used the word pretentious to refer to a manner of behavior or the character of a person. In this instance I refer to the knowledge itself.

Definitions of pretend on the Web:

the enactment of a pretense; \"it was just pretend\"
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make believe with the intent to deceive; \"He feigned that he was ill\"; \"He shammed a headache\"
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behave unnaturally or affectedly; \"She\'s just acting\"
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put forward a claim and assert right or possession of; \"pretend the title of King\"
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put forward, of a guess, in spite of possible refutation; \"I am guessing that the price of real estate will rise again\"; \"I cannot pretend to say that you are wrong\"
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represent fictitiously, as in a play, or pretend to be or act like; \"She makes like an actress\"
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state insincerely; \"He professed innocence but later admitted his guilt\"; \"She pretended not to have known the suicide bomber\"; \"She pretends to be an expert on wine\"
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imagined as in a play; \"the make-believe world of theater\"; \"play money\"; \"dangling their legs in the water to catch pretend fish\"
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airmailrpl
Brazil
Local time: 03:38
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English,

Portuguese
PRO pts in category: 36

36 mins confidence:

alternate menu of the same display window

Explanation:
Think of the display as the machine's monitoring and command screen with more than one menu, but only one menu can be shown at a time. Depending on what you want the machine to do the proper menu must appear.

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Note added at 8 hrs 12 mins (2004-08-10 00:10:37 GMT)
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Richard Benham: Lacking your pretended or unpretended knowledge about who uses the terms alternate and alternative more appropriately -- the US or UK -- I will not enter into national debate on this issue. Please observe, however, that many monitoring and control screens automatically return to the main menu after some time has elapsed and are therefore both alternate (interval) and alternative (selection) in nature.

Moreover, since the menaing of these terms overlap I find your neutral comment as little more than a mark-up ploy to highlight your own answer and thus mislead the asker. Please change it to an agree or remove it.

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Note added at 17 days (2004-08-27 15:14:15 GMT) Post-grading
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airmailrpl: My original response to you obviously requires clarification. I apologize for the somewhat contradictory character of my statement, but please keep in mind the extreme space limitation of the box in which it was entered.

A single act is not a behavioral trait, rather the manifestation of conscious or unconscious intent for a given moment. It was not my goal to label Richard as a pretentious individual; rather to indicate the dubious nature of the information that he was supplying. Now you may argue that a pretentious act is indeed a pretended act, and I would not disagree. In contrast are all pretended acts pretentious in nature? It is here that we disagree.

Judging from Richard\'s post-entry behaviour -- namely, changing his neutral response to a disagree without further explanation -- one might very well conclude that his possibly pretended show of information was indeed pretentious. Fortunately, the ProZ.com bulletin boards are not the place to discuss the personality traits of other contributors, or as it were, noncontributors.

Thank you for providing me with an incentive to clarify my remark.

Roddy Stegemann
United States
Local time: 23:38
Native speaker of:

English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

disagree

Richard Benham: See my answer on the distinction between "alternate" and "alternative".

1 hr

-> Truly there are alternative ways of calling an ass an ass, but this is not the place to discuss them.

agree

Ramesh Madhavan

18 hrs

-> Thank you, Ramesh. At least now the only negative marker appears along with Richard Benham's name, rather than with the entire group.

neutral

airmailrpl: pretended or unpretended => or pretentious?? see additions on 'pretend' above

3 days 17 hrs

-> I have always used the word pretentious to refer to a manner of behavior or the character of a person. In this instance I refer to the knowledge itself. In any case let us not wander from the issue of alternating display windows. // See note above.

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