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English translation: improvement in (no direct control) vs. improvement over (direct control)

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English term or phrase:improvement in or improvement over?
English translation:improvement in (no direct control) vs. improvement over (direct control)
Entered by: Michael Powers (PhD)
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23:28 May 20, 2005
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English term or phrase: improvement in or improvement over?
Is it 'IMPROVEMENT OVER' or 'IMPROVEMENT IN' as in the context below?

Thank you for your reply to my email doctor. Yes, it seems that the tumors have become active again, and it is like there are two suspected tumors observed in his scan results. However, Mr X has shown a gradual IMPROVEMENT OVER his motor power. He is now able to return to normal activities like swimming (hydro-therapy) twice a week, and walking by himself with the aid of a walker (and now begins to use a four-legged cane/quad cane). He has also returned to work, which is three times a week. In short, there has been a gradual return to normal activities.
xxxTrias
improvement in
Explanation:
This sounds natural to me.

Mike :)

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Note added at 3 mins (2005-05-20 23:32:50 GMT)
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For me, \"improvement in\" is when something happens over which one does not have direct control, whereas \"improvement over\" implies direct control.

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Note added at 6 mins (2005-05-20 23:35:01 GMT)
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For example, a teacher might have improvement over the students\' discilipline because of certain policies that have been enacted; however, improvement in one\'s sleeping habits may not be due to a conscious effort, but rather because one has less stress.
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Michael Powers (PhD)
United States
Local time: 20:07
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Thank you all!
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4 +18improvement in
Michael Powers (PhD)


  

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1 min   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +18
improvement in


Explanation:
This sounds natural to me.

Mike :)

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Note added at 3 mins (2005-05-20 23:32:50 GMT)
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For me, \"improvement in\" is when something happens over which one does not have direct control, whereas \"improvement over\" implies direct control.

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Note added at 6 mins (2005-05-20 23:35:01 GMT)
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For example, a teacher might have improvement over the students\' discilipline because of certain policies that have been enacted; however, improvement in one\'s sleeping habits may not be due to a conscious effort, but rather because one has less stress.

Michael Powers (PhD)
United States
Local time: 20:07
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 83
Grading comment
Thank you all!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Alexander Demyanov
2 mins
  -> Thank you, Alexnder - Mike :)

agree  KathyT
4 mins
  -> Thank you, KathyT - Mike :)

agree  rangepost
14 mins
  -> Thank you, rangepost - Mike :)

agree  juvera
28 mins
  -> Thank you, juvera - Mike :)

agree  npis: Dr. Powers gives a good point. Most physiological controls are already there to begin with. Improvement 'in' motor controls sounds more natural.
34 mins
  -> Thank you, npis - Mike :)

agree  Robert Donahue: "in" is correct. I think it should be written as motor FUNCTIONS/SKILLS though.
1 hr
  -> Thank you, Robert - Mike :)

agree  conejo
1 hr
  -> Thank you, conejo - Mike :)

agree  Can Altinbay
2 hrs
  -> Thank you, Can - Mike :)

agree  xxxgtreyger: Agree wth Robert
2 hrs
  -> Thank you, Gennadly - Mike :)

agree  Saleh Chowdhury, Ph.D.
4 hrs
  -> Thank you, Saleh - Mike :)

agree  Lingo Pros: agree with Robert: "in motor skills"
5 hrs
  -> Thank you, Lingo - Mike :)

agree  David Moore
9 hrs
  -> Thank you, David - Mike :)

agree  Orla Ryan
11 hrs
  -> Thank you, orla - Mike :)

agree  Orbital: In motor power is true. But, over would be ' Improvement over his motor controls'
12 hrs
  -> Thank you, Orbital - Mike :)

agree  jennifer newsome
16 hrs
  -> Thank you, tricklyclever - Mike :)

agree  Will Matter
17 hrs
  -> Thank you, willmatter - Mike :)

agree  xxxAlfa Trans
17 hrs
  -> Thank you, Marju - Mike :)

agree  Jörgen Slet
19 hrs
  -> Thank you, Jörgen - Mike :)
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