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English translation: consider AS THOUGH not liable


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English term or phrase:hold harmless
English translation:consider AS THOUGH not liable
Entered by: John Kinory
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18:26 Apr 15, 2002
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Law/Patents
English term or phrase: hold harmless
XXX agrees to defend, indemnify and hold harmless the Institution ...
what is the difference between "hold harmless" and "indemnify"?
Csaba Ban
Hungary
Local time: 20:04
hold harmless
Explanation:
sabilités (droit civil)

hold harmless clause s CORRECT


save harmless clause s CORRECT

harmless clause s

exculpatory clause s CORRECT




Hold harmless (clause)

DEF - A clause inserted in a contract whereby one party agrees to indemnify and protect the other party from any injuries or lawsuits arising out of the particular transaction.


Indemnify = sabilités (droit civil)

indemnify and hold harmless s CORRECT

indemnify and save harmless s CORRECT
indemnify and keep harmless s
save harmless and keep indemnified s











OBS - indemnify. ... To save harmless. s
OBS - Indemnify. To save harmless. s
OBS - indemnify: To save harmless against loss or damage incurred by another ... s
OBS - Indemnify: Compensate, hold harmless, ... s
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GILLES MEUNIER
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Summary of answers provided
4 +4to hold harmless is to consider as not liable
Parrot
5indemnify
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
5blameless
Terry Burgess
5see explanation below
trixiemck
4..Tatiana Neroni
4hold harmless
GILLES MEUNIER
4protect vs. keep free
Bill Greendyk


  

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protect vs. keep free


Explanation:
Hi Csaba,

I would see indemnify as to insure or protect against loss or liability, in a more protective and restorative manner.

'Hold harmless' would, in my opinion, refer more MAINTAIN, where possible, the company free from loss or liability. It is a very fine line, indeed.

Bill Greendyk
United States
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blameless


Explanation:
I think the proper word here should be "blameless"..in other words, free of blame or responsibility.

Indemnify means to compensate or make amends for any damage done.

Hope this helps.
terry

Terry Burgess
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neutral  John Kinory: 'hold harmless' is a standard phrase.
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to hold harmless is to consider as not liable


Explanation:
and a liable party "indemnifies" the damage done (i.e., gives compensation for).

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Note added at 2002-04-15 18:34:48 (GMT) Post-grading
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The sentence could this be rephrased as \"to defend and compensate the institution, and consider it free from responsibility/liability...\"

Parrot
Spain
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  John Kinory: As so often the case, a wrong (and confused) answer was chosen.
1 hr

agree  Tatiana Neroni
1 hr

agree  claudia bagnardi
2 hrs

agree  Fuad Yahya
5 hrs

agree  Julia Bogdan Rollo
19 hrs

disagree  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: When B agrees to indemnify A, B is agreeing to pay sums which A may owe to a third party, C. B does not become liable in A's place.
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hold harmless


Explanation:
sabilités (droit civil)

hold harmless clause s CORRECT


save harmless clause s CORRECT

harmless clause s

exculpatory clause s CORRECT




Hold harmless (clause)

DEF - A clause inserted in a contract whereby one party agrees to indemnify and protect the other party from any injuries or lawsuits arising out of the particular transaction.


Indemnify = sabilités (droit civil)

indemnify and hold harmless s CORRECT

indemnify and save harmless s CORRECT
indemnify and keep harmless s
save harmless and keep indemnified s











OBS - indemnify. ... To save harmless. s
OBS - Indemnify. To save harmless. s
OBS - indemnify: To save harmless against loss or damage incurred by another ... s
OBS - Indemnify: Compensate, hold harmless, ... s

GILLES MEUNIER
France
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disagree  John Kinory: WHY is this person answering English (mono)? Even his profile page contains several grammatical errors (in English).
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agree  Nikki Scott-Despaigne
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see explanation below


Explanation:
To hold harmless means to free from responsibility while to inmdemnify means to exempt from penalty (for actions) or to compensate for loss

trixiemck
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..


Explanation:
To indemnify = to hold harmless:

See - "Indemnity Clause" (actually the quoted phrase is from such a clause) - A contractual provision in which one party agrees to answer for any specified or unspecified liability or harm that the other party might incur. - Also termed "hold-harmless clause; save-harmless clause".

To indemnify - 1. to reimburse (another) for a loss suffered because of a 3d party's act or default. 2. To promise to reimburse (another) for such a loss. 3. To give (another) security against such a loss.

To hold harmless - to absolve (another party) from any responsibility for damare or other liability arising from the transaction, TO INDEMNIFY.


    Black's Law Dictionary
Tatiana Neroni
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indemnify


Explanation:
Sorry to come to this one just now. It’s been while since I dropped in on the EN>EN pages!

Liability and indemnity are not to be confused. They are quite different.

If A is held liable for an accident, he may have to compensate the injured party, B. If A has insurance, then that insurer C will indemnify A for the money he has had to pay over to B. The relationship between A and C is contractual. C cannot be held liable for A’s action or omission.

There is also something called vicarious liability where Y may be held liable for X’s acts or omissions where Y has authorised those acts or omissions. A classic example would be the relationship between an employer and an employee. Where the employee, X, causes damage to a third party, Z, and that damage occurred in the course of X doing his job, then it is likely that the employer, Y would be held vicariously liable. As and when Z decides to take legal action, he can generally choose to sue either Y or X (even both) although his best bet would usually be to pursue Y as he would have better cover.

Your question is about whether “hold harmless” and indemnify” are the same. Yes, going back to the first example, C agrees to hold A harmless (to protect A), by agreeing to indemnify him – hence the shipowners’ insurance mutuals known as “protection and indemnity clubs”.

I conclude by saying that it is not safe to say that holding someone harmless is tantamount to saying they are not liable. Indeed, to say so, would be erroneous. It means agreeing to protect a party where they ARE found liable. (It does not mean they are not liable, nor does it mean that the indemninfier becomes liable in their shoes, as it were).

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Note added at 2002-04-29 14:45:32 (GMT) Post-grading
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(It does not mean they (*) are not liable, nor does it mean that the indemninfier becomes liable in their shoes, as it were).

* the \"they\" here being the party which agrees to indemnify - thus neither liable instead of or along with the party responsible for having caused the damage.


    Professional experience in indemnity insurance (maritime/protection and indemnity ; professional indemnity)
    Legal dictionaries
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
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