Phrase

10:59 Oct 23, 2006

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English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Medical - Medical (general)

English term or phrase: Phrase

I am reviewing some English to Russian text, one phrase of which doesn't make any sense to me (neither in English, not in Russian). As far as I can understand, this is some kind of a flyer about flu vaccination. Here it goes:

***Consent: Please ask your Health Care Provider any questions you may have.

By reading this material and by accepting the flu vaccine needle means that you have agreed to ‘getting the flu shot’.***

What do you understand from it? Especially about "accepting the flu vaccine needles".

Mark Vaintroub KudoZ activity Questions: 459 (6 open) (1 without valid answers) (23 closed without grading) Answers: 1841 Canada
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4 +3

By accepting the flu vaccine by injection (so it's not something on a spoon is what they mean)

Anna Maria Augustine (X)

Two prerequisites if one is assumed to have consented

Angela Dickson (X)

My take

vixen

Discussion entries: 8

Answers

4 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

phrase By accepting the flu vaccine by injection (so it's not something on a spoon is what they mean)

Explanation:
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Note added at 9 mins (2006-10-23 11:09:44 GMT)
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So a patient reads the information about the flu vaccine, and this means they accept/agree to the injection (shot).

Theoretically they should sign to state they agree.

The vaccine needle is irrelevant. It means the vaccine is given by injection. One hopes the needles are not infected with HIV, I suppose so there is no risk involved.

Anna Maria Augustine (X)
France
Local time: 10:39
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English,

French
PRO pts in category: 27

12 mins confidence:

phrase Two prerequisites if one is assumed to have consented

Explanation:
As you say, it's not terribly clear... but it could be that in order to be deemed to have consented to 'receiving the flu jab' you have to both accept the needle (i.e. not push the nurse away, scream, run away etc.) *and* have read the explanatory material. Just accepting the needle is not sufficient (though it is necessary).

The grammar is off, though - 'by... and by... means that you have...' is a very strange formulation to my (UK) ears.

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Note added at 21 mins (2006-10-23 11:20:59 GMT)
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sorry, I wasn't trying to suggest you didn't realise the grammar was off! Just offering a reading. For what it's worth, I don't think it's anything to do with the needle as compared to a spoon etc. - I'm more inclined to think that it's making the (fairly obvious) point that in order to have a jab you have to be willing to get close to a needle.

Angela Dickson (X)
United Kingdom
Local time: 09:39
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 32

43 mins confidence:

phrase My take

Explanation:
I'm wondering if what is meant is perhaps that the person requiring the 'flu shot' has to get his prescription filled at the pharmacy. He will then receive the vaccine + needle, which he has to take to his GP or other healthcare professional to receive the 'shot'.

In that case, the flyer would be handed out at the pharmacy.

In the Netherlands, people requiring an influenza injection for health reasons (risk factors) get an invitation from their GP for a cost-free flu shot. People who want to take the injection on a voluntary basis need to get a prescription filled at the pharmacy - and pay.

vixen
Greece
Local time: 11:39
Native speaker of: Dutch
PRO pts in category: 4

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