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15:30 Nov 9, 2007
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English term or phrase: around the German post market
This launch enables Neopost Germany to target a new market. With the IJ-110, we can target high volume customers, who will appreciate the high-capacity ink tank system helping to reduce operating costs. We have sent direct mailings to purchasers, controllers, accountants, as well as managing directors and mailroom officers of businesses with medium to high post volumes. Not only existing customers but also new ones and customers of competitors are in the target group. The IJ-110 will be presented to our VIP customers in road-shows in different regions in Germany. Luxurious locations were selected for an informative presentation around the German post market in several cities.
DOES IT MEAN ABOUT THE GERMAN POST MARKET??'
CAN I PARAPHRASE IT: Luxurious locations in several cities were selected for an informative presentation about the German post market
Cristina Giannetti
Local time: 21:01
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1No, I don't believe you can paraphrase it this wayAlexander Demyanov
3 +1for (Neopost Germany's) customers in the postal market
Bernhard Sulzer
4 -1about the german post marketsalavat
3 -1commentKen Cox


  

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6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
around the german post market
about the german post market


Explanation:
You are right. "Around" is a typo.

salavat
Local time: 00:01
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian

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disagree  Alexander Demyanov: The sentence is somewhat awkwardly constructed but it's not a typo for "about".
1 hr
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
around the german post market
comment


Explanation:
The author may have been thinking of or translating 'rund um die Postmarkt, which literally would mean 'around the post market' but should be understood figuratively as meaning 'dealing with all aspects of the post market'.

Ken Cox
Local time: 21:01
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 56

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Bernhard Sulzer: on second thought I think it could be the customers (Neopost Germany's customers) in the postal market. see my entry. What do you think?
46 mins

disagree  Alexander Demyanov: The prev sentence states what the presentations are about. The one in Q. is about locations etc.//Subject IS what presentation is about, is it not?//On "reflect..." that was my (poor?) attempt at a joke, alluding to The Inimitable Jeeves, sorry
7 hrs
  -> Say what? I don't see a 'clear explanation of what the presentations are about' in the previous sentence, but only identificaton of the subject. And I usually reflect and consider before posting an answer. In any case 'around' is unnatural usage.
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
around the german post market
No, I don't believe you can paraphrase it this way


Explanation:
These are not "presentations about German post market".
They are presentations on this IJ-110.

The phrase is admittedly awkward but what it tries to say is that presentation on IJ-110 are going to take place in several cities at warious locations (that's their meaning of "around") in the German market for postal (mail) services.


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Note added at 1 hr (2007-11-09 17:20:42 GMT)
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http://www.neopostinc.com/products/ij-110-digital-mailing-sy...

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Note added at 5 hrs (2007-11-09 21:10:34 GMT)
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You can just replace "around" with "throughout", and the meaning will clear up.

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Note added at 21 hrs (2007-11-10 12:37:27 GMT)
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To the excellent point made by Bernhard: I was wrong about just replacing "around" with "throughout". The word order would need to be changed too. For example:

"in several cities throughout the German postal market"

Alexander Demyanov
Local time: 15:01
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  xxxcmwilliams
2 hrs
  -> Thanks, CM!

neutral  Ken Cox: I agree that it doesn't mean 'about', but I don't think it means 'everywhere in the geographic market'. To me it says that the presentations will focus on the advantages, benefits etc. of the machine for applications involving this market.
5 hrs
  -> Sorry, Ken. I fail to see how this can be derived from the source.

neutral  Bernhard Sulzer: If it meant "throughout", adding "in several cities" seems rather odd. / O.k., I do listen. On second thought, I believe it could mean "for customers in the postal market." At least I believe that's more likely than "throughout..in several cities."
6 hrs
  -> Please! They are selling a digital postage device. Read the previous sentence, for example.
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15 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
around the german post market
for (Neopost Germany's) customers in the postal market


Explanation:
meaning the people and businesses that are Neopost Germany's target group for the IJ-110 - they are "around"/"in" the postal market.

I believe it could mean "for customers in the postal market." At least I believe that's more likely than "throughout..in several cities." Cause that' be a geographical double whammy.

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Note added at 1 day47 mins (2007-11-10 16:17:22 GMT)
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Christina, in any case, it is worded very strangely/unnaturally and I don't think one can be 100% sure about the meaning. I definitely recommend asking the client for verification.
:-)

Bernhard Sulzer
United States
Local time: 15:01
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 4

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agree  orientalhorizon
1 day19 hrs
  -> thanks, orientalhorizon!
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