over

English translation: NOT 'over' - doesn't mean the same thing

16:37 Dec 6, 2004

English language (monolingual) [Non-PRO]
Art/Literary - Poetry & Literature / children's literature

English term or phrase: over

The sun had already touched the tops of the huge pine-trees ***over*** the Deep Blue Forest and was slowly sinking behind them, but the late afternoon was still bright and clear, and She-Who-Tells-Fortune walked vigorously down the road to Common Town where she lived.

That's my translation from Russian. What I'd like to know is... well, is it OK to use OVER here, and not OF? I don't want to use OF because there is one already: tops OF the huge pine-trees OF the Deep Blue Forest - sounds a bit awkward to me. Or, if OVER doesn't work here, could it be IN?

Thank you!

Andrew Vdovin KudoZ activity Questions: 3923 (2 open) (2 closed without grading) Answers: 3924
Local time: 14:33

Selected answer:NOT 'over' - doesn't mean the same thing

Explanation:
IN would be OK but OF is best

I would say "She-who-tells-fortuneS" and "walking vigorously" is odd. How about "striding firmly"?

Selected response from:

CMJ_Trans (X)
Local time: 09:33

Grading comment

Thanks a lot for all your suggestions!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED

4 +10

NOT 'over' - doesn't mean the same thing

CMJ_Trans (X)

4 +2

Eskarina

5 +1

that covered

George Rabel

4 +1

hovering over/overhanging

RHELLER

Answers

4 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +10

NOT 'over' - doesn't mean the same thing

Explanation:
IN would be OK but OF is best

I would say "She-who-tells-fortuneS" and "walking vigorously" is odd. How about "striding firmly"?

CMJ_Trans (X)
Local time: 09:33
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 52

Grading comment

Thanks a lot for all your suggestions!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Attila Piróth: No problem with two ofs. Agree with the two other remarks, too.

4 mins

agree

Eskarina: I think "walking vigorously" would work in the case of a male character

5 mins

agree

RHELLER: agree with plural on fortunes but IN is not ok imho

11 mins

agree

Neil Phillipson: agree with the comments, and instead of 'walked vigorously', marched, strode

23 mins

-> striding out

agree

Leo3 (X): not 'in'

25 mins

agree

Madeleine MacRae Klintebo: of

37 mins

agree

Lisa Frideborg Eddy (X)

2 hrs

agree

mportal: I think 'in' is better than 'of', and I'd say 'walked briskly'(=fast and energetically), unless you want it to sound a bit domineering (marched/strode)

2 hrs

agree

Paula Vaz-Carreiro: "of", I vote for "of". It isn't too many IMO. {I don't think "vigorously" is that bad - but how about "briskly"

3 hrs

agree

Asghar Bhatti

5 hrs

6 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

in

Explanation:
"In" seems just fine, especially cause another of would be just too much :)

Eskarina
Local time: 10:33
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

Romanian

13 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

hovering over/overhanging

Explanation:
more descriptive

RHELLER
United States
Local time: 01:33
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 66

33 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

that covered

Explanation:
alternative:
The sun had already touched the tops of the huge pine-trees that covered the Deep Blue Forest

George Rabel
Local time: 03:33
Native speaker of: Spanish
PRO pts in category: 8

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