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Slang / hip-hop/street dancing | | English term or phrase: fish (slang) | I am looking for a slang meaning here, not along the normal lines of "sea creature"!
In a discussion about a scene from a hip-hop street dancing movie ("You Got Served"), someone says: "They cut out the fish, though".
Then the discussion goes on that the original scene was a lot longer. I've found several possible slang interpretations for "fish", but does anyone know if there is a specific connotation within the hip-hop/street dancing subculture?
Otherwise I may simply use a translation for "they cut out a lot".
Thanks in advance! |
|  Agnes DouwesKudoZ activityQuestions: 9 (none open) ( 1 closed without grading) Answers: 47
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| | English translation:A specific dance move or "step" in breakdancing or dance in general | Explanation:
Also known as "the worm," "the dolphin,"
I think they probably meant a move similar to "the worm."
HOWEVER, EVEN IF THEY DIDN'T mean that specific move, I would strongly bet that "the fish" is SOME dance move. After all, each dance team invents its own names for its moves.
Read through the following brief quotes and excerpts and see what you think...
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All: Form a circle. Front sashay. Fish move back. Turn. ...
members.tripod.com/praise_you/
... execute any aerials in their performance, but impressed the crowd with their flawless
dancing! ... We learned a dip into a snake into the final ending fish move! ...
www.salsachicago.com/n_SofiaLiftsWorkshop.htm
The worm? I almost spit my drink out when you were flopping on the ground like
a fish. Where are those pictures?! ... Breakdance moves can cause injury. ...
www.fightcompany.com/forum/thread.jsp?forum=17&thread=1713&...
... The most basic breakdance moves are the 6-step and toprock. ... The Worm is a move in which a dancer lies on the ground and forms a rippling motion though his body ...
www.dancenetwork.com.au/page.asp?page=39&article=205
weekly 'new moves' section to ... The Chicken-Back The
Chicken Dance The Chin ... The Fine Twine The Finger Poppin' The Fish The Flake ...
www.sixtiescity.com/Culture/dance.htm
Come on baby and do the Fish, I'm gonna teach it to ...
ntl.matrix.com.br/pfilho/html/lyrics/f/fishbr.txt
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Note added at 7 hrs 38 mins (2004-06-15 18:13:35 GMT)
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By the way, I am a fairly avid dancer here in Los Angeles, California. I do visit nightclubs and the like. I mainly dance salsa and ballet, but I have had experience in hip-hop, as well.
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Note added at 7 hrs 52 mins (2004-06-15 18:27:15 GMT)
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Therefore, the sentence \"they cut out the fish, though\" is a complaint or criticism saying \"but they removed the part where the dancers do the fish move!\" |
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kellyn
| Grading comment An answer well worth waiting for - it fits this particular context perfectly. I actually found an additional comment later in my text about a routine that was cut, which helps to support your view. Very helpful. Thank you!
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1 hr confidence: peer agreement (net): +1 | They cut out the finish, though.
Explanation:
The person could have said "finish", swallowing a syllable, as is often done in street slang. "Though" would also more than likely be pronounced as "dough".
| Vera Orloff
Local time: 11:35
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Native speaker of:  English
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| | Grading comment | Interesting thought! I picked another answer, but this was intriguing. |
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Comment: Interesting thought! I picked another answer, but this was intriguing. |
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1 hr confidence: peer agreement (net): +1 | a version
Explanation:
It seems that there hardly is a special hip hop slang meaning for "fish", otherwise it would appear in at least 1 of the 6 hip-hop slang collections I have checked.
I believe it's highly possible that "fish" here means "the main part", "the most juicy part", or such, as in "the main part of the meal".
| | | Grading comment | Thanks for your efforts with the slang dictionaries. |
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1 hr confidence: | one idea
Explanation:
The idea I get when reading it and knowing that after that they went on talking that the scene used to be longer is that "they chopped the scene", they cut it, probably the end or just some bits.
Don't know which language are you translating into, to try to find an equivalent, but I understand it as a comparison between the scene and the fish, something like "they cut out the fish('s head and now it's incomplete)
I might be just rambling ;o)
Grace.
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Comment: Thanks. |
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7 hrs confidence: peer agreement (net): +2 | A specific dance move or "step" in breakdancing or dance in general
Explanation:
Also known as "the worm," "the dolphin,"
I think they probably meant a move similar to "the worm."
HOWEVER, EVEN IF THEY DIDN'T mean that specific move, I would strongly bet that "the fish" is SOME dance move. After all, each dance team invents its own names for its moves.
Read through the following brief quotes and excerpts and see what you think...
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All: Form a circle. Front sashay. Fish move back. Turn. ...
members.tripod.com/praise_you/
... execute any aerials in their performance, but impressed the crowd with their flawless
dancing! ... We learned a dip into a snake into the final ending fish move! ...
www.salsachicago.com/n_SofiaLiftsWorkshop.htm
The worm? I almost spit my drink out when you were flopping on the ground like
a fish. Where are those pictures?! ... Breakdance moves can cause injury. ...
www.fightcompany.com/forum/thread.jsp?forum=17&thread=1713&...
... The most basic breakdance moves are the 6-step and toprock. ... The Worm is a move in which a dancer lies on the ground and forms a rippling motion though his body ...
www.dancenetwork.com.au/page.asp?page=39&article=205
weekly 'new moves' section to ... The Chicken-Back The
Chicken Dance The Chin ... The Fine Twine The Finger Poppin' The Fish The Flake ...
www.sixtiescity.com/Culture/dance.htm
Come on baby and do the Fish, I'm gonna teach it to ...
ntl.matrix.com.br/pfilho/html/lyrics/f/fishbr.txt
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Note added at 7 hrs 38 mins (2004-06-15 18:13:35 GMT)
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By the way, I am a fairly avid dancer here in Los Angeles, California. I do visit nightclubs and the like. I mainly dance salsa and ballet, but I have had experience in hip-hop, as well.
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Note added at 7 hrs 52 mins (2004-06-15 18:27:15 GMT)
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Therefore, the sentence \"they cut out the fish, though\" is a complaint or criticism saying \"but they removed the part where the dancers do the fish move!\"
| kellyn
Native speaker of:  English
PRO pts in category: 4
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| | Grading comment | An answer well worth waiting for - it fits this particular context perfectly. I actually found an additional comment later in my text about a routine that was cut, which helps to support your view. Very helpful. Thank you! |
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16 mins confidence: peer agreement (net): +4 | possible slang usage of 'fish'
Explanation:
A dictionary of slang -"F" - Slang and colloquialisms of the UK.
...fish Noun. Women. Extremely derogatory expression for females, usually heard used by homosexual mysogynists. Alludes to an unsavoury vaginal smell. Possibly the most offensive expression for women?
http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=fish&sp-a=00021000-sp00...
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Note added at 19 hrs 59 mins (2004-06-16 06:33:55 GMT)
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Fish
Fish is Black-American slang for \"a woman\"
http://www.davidpye.com/probert/PA.HTM
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Note added at 1 day 17 hrs 11 mins (2004-06-17 03:46:10 GMT) Post-grading
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Alexander Demyanov: Seems hardly feasible that girls should be cut out of a hip hop performance. Why? Also, I don\'t see how a derogatory term for women is in order in the phrase.||| Saw it before making mine. Not convincing.
Apparently it wasn\'t, as the asker chose another suggestion, which I endorse, also - As I said - mine was a \'possible\' slang usage of \'fish\'.
kellyn\'s suggestion is much more in line with what the asker needed.
|  airmailrpl
Brazil
Local time: 16:35
Native speaker of: English, Portuguese
PRO pts in category: 24
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| | Grading comment | This is indeed a very common slang meaning of fish, esp. as SirReal indicated. But it does not fit my context as well as another answer. Still, thanks to all of you! |
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