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|English to English translations [Non-PRO]|
|English term or phrase: To knot vs . to fasten|
|Is there any semantical difference between to knot and to fasten? In the expression below which one should be used and why?|
A wooden cross fastened/knotted with ropes
(meaning that the parts of the cross were attached together with ropes not nails or something else)
Could you also provide a couple of collocations with to knot and to fasten? Thanks!
|English translation:In your example...|
both of your alternatives refer to the attachment of the cross to something ELSE (such as a door, a tree, a column, etc.):
"The cross was fastened/knotted TO THE WALL with ropes".
"To knot" can mean to make a knot in something ("he knotted the rope [= tied knots in it]") or to tie/connect using a knot.
In both of your alternatives, I think you have to add "...together" to indicate that you are referring to the connection of the two parts of the cross to each other and not the attachment of the whole cross to something else:
"The cross was fastened together with ropes" or "...was knotted together...". You could also say "was tied together" or "was lashed together", but TOGETHER needs to be there for clarity. If you omit "together", then the reader infers that the cross is attached to some other object.
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To fasten is the more general term,
meaning to affix or attach something to something using a tool, instrument or mechanism (rope, nail, nut and bolt, chain, lock, etc.). It can also mean 'to make secure'. In this case it's synonymous to 'to anchor, fix, moor'.
To knot is more specific in that it is used only with rope or something that can be knotted. In your example:
the wooden cross was fastened and a rope was knotted around it
the wooden cross was fastened and strung on/with knotted rope
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