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Arabic translation: بالنظر لعلاقاتهم بمنظمة (كافيننت)

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English term or phrase:	Covenant ties
Arabic translation:	بالنظر لعلاقاتهم بمنظمة (كافيننت)
Entered by:	maiabulela

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12:01 Aug 19, 2010

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English term or phrase: ties

Dear all,

What is the meaning of "ties" in the following context:

A CIA agent is telling his boss saying:

"We actually have somebody in custody with CRF connections considering their Covenant ties and all."

"CRF is a terrorist cell"

Can we say يعرف أطراف معاهداتها؟ I don't know what "covenant ties" mean.

Thanks a lot.

maiabulela KudoZ activity Questions: 467 (8 open) (53 closed without grading) Answers: 3
Local time: 21:33

معتقداتهم

Explanation:
considering their Covenant ties
فيما يتعلق بمعتقداته

هذه الجملة مصوغة بأسلوب إنكليزي "على الماشي"...ـ

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Islam-947/Muslim-Beliefs-2.htm

http://www.truthnet.org/endtimes/2/

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نعم، عفوًا وضعت ترجمة الجملة لكي تكون واضحة وTheir هنا ترشد إلى connections

and all=et al= وغير ذلك، ومختلف الأشياء، إلخ

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لأنه يحكي عن أفراد الخلية وعلاقاتها ومعتقداتها
الجملة كلها "مكركبة" بالإنكليزية الأمريكية، ولا يجب الأخذ على الأمريكان الذين يحكون عن كلبهم ويقولون
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Selected response from:

TargamaT
Syria
Local time: 22:33

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4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

علاقته بحزب العهد

Amira A Wahab

/صلات /ارتباطات/علاقات

azmi jbeili

علاقات

Muhammad Abdulfattah AHMAD

معتقداتهم

TargamaT

Discussion entries: 10

Mohamed Gaafar

Egypt

01:13 Aug 28, 2010

i have made a support request in your behalf so it can be reopened but this will also depened on the mutual agreement of the answerer

maiabulela

ASKER

23:19 Aug 27, 2010

How can I re-open?

Mohamed Gaafar

Egypt

Ms Mai

23:14 Aug 27, 2010

in response to your request you can reopen the question then assign the points to the answer you want

maiabulela

ASKER

14:21 Aug 27, 2010

I did. Thanks a lot. :)

Muhammad Abdulfattah AHMAD

Egypt

12:58 Aug 27, 2010

Thanks Mai for the comment. The only thing you can do to rectify the situation is that you edit the translation of the term in the glossary.

maiabulela

ASKER

12:54 Aug 27, 2010

Thanks Mr. Muhamad.

Muhammad Abdulfattah AHMAD

Egypt

21:55 Aug 24, 2010

الأخت مي
لعله حدث لبس، وفهم الزميل كلمة
covenant ties
على أنها
convictions
والتي تعني في صيغة المفرد
An unshakable belief in something without need for proof or evidence [word web dictionary]

ولكن كلمة
ties
لها معان محددة منها
3 [usually plural] a strong connection between people or organizations
family ties
the ties of friendship
economic ties
The firm has close ties with an American corporation.
emotional ties
Both sides agreed to strengthen political ties.
Although he was raised as a Roman Catholic, he has cut his ties with the Church.
http://www.oxfordadvancedlearnersdictionary.com/dictionary/t...

وانظري باقي التعريفات فهل تجدين فيها معنى المعتقدات أو ما شابه؟

Amira A Wahab

15:56 Aug 24, 2010

Dear Mai, I agree with Mr. Muhammad. The word is written in capital T, so it must refer to an organization or a political party. I googled it and found that "Covenant Party" really exists, try to google it again to fit your ,context. May God help you!

maiabulela

ASKER

15:41 Aug 24, 2010

كلا، لم تذكر من قبل، ولا أظنها اسم منظمة،
وحتى الآن لا أفهم بنية الجملة مائة بالمائة، لكن إن شئتم فبوسعي أن أرسل لكم جزئية الفيديو تلك، ربما تكون لكم رؤية أخرى
I have a video splitter, I can split this scene. It's from the TV series "ALias;" separate episodes.

What do you think?

Thanks a lot for your concern.

Muhammad Abdulfattah AHMAD

Egypt

14:04 Aug 24, 2010

الأخت مي لا تتسرعي في اعتماد أي إجابة قبل البحث والتحري فليس كل ما يُقال صحيح

لي سؤال: هل ذُكرت كلمة
Covenant
قبل ذلك في النص الذي تترجميه

ينبغي أن يلاحظ أن الكلمة في نص السؤال تبدأ بحرف كبير ولهذا دلالة لغوية
إذ من الممكن أن تشير الكلمة إلى اسم منظمة أو ما شابه
وبالتالي
Covenant ties
تشير إلى علاقات الأشخاص المذكورين باسم هذه المنظمة والتي اسمها كافاننت

Answers

25 mins confidence:

علاقات

Explanation:
tie: social or business relationship
http://www.onelook.com/?w=tie&ls=a
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considering their Covenant ties

على خلفية/بسبب علاقاتهم بكافاننت

من الوارد أن تكون "كافاننت" اسم منظمة أو شيء من هذا القبيل

Muhammad Abdulfattah AHMAD
Egypt
Local time: 21:33
Native speaker of:

Arabic
PRO pts in category: 8

Notes to answerer

Asker: Yes. It turned out you are absolutely right. " Covenant – a fictitious crime syndicate"

20 mins confidence:

/صلات /ارتباطات/علاقات

Explanation:
...

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Covenant here does not mean - agreement- it means an organisation, association, religious cult, party .... What is meant here - the connection of his/her covenant (cult)?

azmi jbeili
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:33
Native speaker of: Arabic

Notes to answerer

Asker: what is the meaning then of صلات معاهداته ? I need the meaning in that specific context! Thanks.

24 mins confidence:

Covenant ties

معتقداتهم

TargamaT
Syria
Local time: 22:33
Native speaker of:

Arabic,

French
PRO pts in category: 68

Notes to answerer

Asker: You mean that "covenant ties" is one expression means معتقدات ? "Their" also was so misleading. That really helps a lot. Many thanks to you.

Asker: then, بالنظر إلى معتقداتهم هم وليس "بالنظر إلى معتقداته هو" ؟ sorry for my too many questions :$ Thanks a lot

Asker: Thanks a lot. They are مكركبين yes.

1 hr confidence:

علاقته بحزب العهد

Explanation:
من الواضح أن هذا الشخص المتحفظ عليه مدان بعلاقات أو صلات مع أحزاب محظورةزوقد وجدت في المصادر أن حزب الكوفنانت هو حزب سياسي موجود في المغرب و جزر مارياناز وفي المغرب يطلق عليه حزب العهد. وفقك الله

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sorry for the typo! I wrote ز instead of . رمضان كريم

Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covenant_Party
Reference: http://www.google.com.eg/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=C...

Amira A Wahab
Local time: 21:33
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Arabic
PRO pts in category: 24

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Changes made by editors

Aug 27, 2010 - Changes made by maiabulela:
Edited KOG entry	maiabulela's old entry - "Covenant ties" => "بالنظر لعلاقاتهم بمنظمة (كافيننت)"
Aug 27, 2010 - Changes made by maiabulela:
Edited KOG entry	maiabulela's old entry - "Covenant ties" => "بالنظر لعلاقاتهم بمنظمة (كوفينانت)"
Aug 27, 2010 - Changes made by maiabulela:
Edited KOG entry	TargamaT's old entry - "Covenant ties" => "بالنظر لعلاقاتهم بمنظمة (كوفينانت)"
Aug 27, 2010 - Changes made by TargamaT:
Edited KOG entry	maiabulela's old entry - "Covenant ties" => "بالنظر لعلاقاتهم بمنظمة (كوفينانت)"
Aug 27, 2010 - Changes made by maiabulela:
Edited KOG entry	maiabulela's old entry - "Covenant ties" => "بالنظر لعلاقاتهم بمنظمة (كوفينانت)"
Aug 27, 2010 - Changes made by maiabulela:
Edited KOG entry	maiabulela's old entry - "covenant ties" => "معتقدات"

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