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advance the company's position with its accounting firm

Chinese translation: 与会计师事务所一起(通过造假账)来使公司财务状况更好看些


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02:25 Sep 21, 2008
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Bus/Financial - Accounting
English term or phrase: advance the company's position with its accounting firm
...accounting personnel {advanced the Company’s position with its independent registered public accounting firm}, Ernst & Young LLP, even when those accounting personnel did not believe that those positions were in accordance with GAAP.”

Can anyone give a well-based explanation about this line?



Thanks a lot.
ShelleyX
Australia
Local time: 12:22
Chinese translation:与会计师事务所一起(通过造假账)来使公司财务状况更好看些
Explanation:
会计师事务所是独立外聘的,即安永,公司领导要求会计人员在与会计师事务所共事时,造些假数,这样看起来业绩就上去了,股票也升了,领导拿的钱也多了。有些假可以造完了让会计师事务所看不出,有些就得取得他们的配合了。估计上述内容是来自下述文章吧:
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orientalhorizon
Local time: 10:22
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Thanks. This answer is the closest to the real meaning of the sentence, though the wording could be better.
3 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +2与会计师事务所一起(通过造假账)来使公司财务状况更好看些
orientalhorizon
4[在某些歧見上]説服独立的注册会计师事务所認同公司的看法hwgr01
3通过其独立的注册会计师事务所抬高公司的头寸
Guangzhou Apple
3通过其独立的注册会计师事务所抬高了公司的地位Louisa Yang


  

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与会计师事务所一起(通过造假账)来使公司财务状况更好看些


Explanation:
会计师事务所是独立外聘的,即安永,公司领导要求会计人员在与会计师事务所共事时,造些假数,这样看起来业绩就上去了,股票也升了,领导拿的钱也多了。有些假可以造完了让会计师事务所看不出,有些就得取得他们的配合了。估计上述内容是来自下述文章吧:



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orientalhorizon
Local time: 10:22
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Thanks. This answer is the closest to the real meaning of the sentence, though the wording could be better.

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agree  Michael Tang
1 hr
  -> Thank you very much!

agree  Ritchest
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  -> Thank you very much!
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通过其独立的注册会计师事务所抬高了公司的地位


Explanation:
Logistically analyzed, it perhaps implies that if all the financial statements were prepared strictly in accordance with GAAP, the company’s state wouldn’t have been advanced to a higher ranking, but the accounting personnel managed to do it by a flexible way (legally or illicitly) 即便这些会计人员认为这些财务报表的生成 (或根据段落其它内容定)并不符合公认的会计原则,他们依然设法通过其独立的注册会计师事务所抬高了公司的地位。

Louisa Yang
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Local time: 10:22
Native speaker of: Native in ChineseChinese
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advance the company\'s position with its accounting firm
[在某些歧見上]説服独立的注册会计师事务所認同公司的看法


Explanation:
advanced the Company’s position with its independent registered public accounting firm

= to convince or to persuade the independent registered public accounting firm to agree with the Company's accounting treatment on certain transactions

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Note added at 9 hrs (2008-09-21 12:20:53 GMT)
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GAAP is a generally accepted standard. The problem is one standard alone can never satisfactorily reflect the true financial picture of ALL companies, never covering ALL industries. There are many instances where a company does not believe blinding following the GAAP will reflect its true financial position. This is the situation where a good accounting personnel can fight and stand firm for its employer (i.e. the Company) with the view to deviate from the GAAP.

...... advancing the Company's case = ..... advancing the Company's position

n.b. this is by no means any form of falsification of accounting records

hwgr01

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Louisa Yang: A unique opinion, a good explanation about the actual practicability of GAAP! But I shall think for myself carefully whether “advanced the company’s position with…” can mean “to convince or to persuade the firm to agree…”
2 days20 hrs
  -> You need to be fairly familiar with the accounting profession to be able to fully appreciate the meaning behind this sentence. One way to decipher the term is : {to advance the company's position} = {to put forward the company's case} = {to convince or t}
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通过其独立的注册会计师事务所抬高公司的头寸


Explanation:
Position应是头寸的意思,这样Position才和GAPP能对应上。

Guangzhou Apple
Local time: 10:22
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