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the desires of the father whom the heterosexual man has taken into himself.

Chinese translation: 父亲自己所接受的期望


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06:32 Mar 21, 2006
English to Chinese translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Poetry & Literature
English term or phrase: the desires of the father whom the heterosexual man has taken into himself.
Following the rule that we identify with abandoned objects of desire, we would then have to say that the so-called positive Oedipus complex in a boy leads to homosexuality, while the negative Oedipus complex in a boy will lead to a heterosexual object choice modeled on the desires of the father whom the heterosexual man has taken into himself.

what is the meaning of "the desires of the father whom the heterosexual man has taken into himself."
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Chinese translation:父亲自己所接受的期望
Explanation:
while the negative Oedipus complex in a boy will lead to a heterosexual object choice modeled on the desires of the father whom the heterosexual man has taken into himself.

而男孩心中的负性奥狄浦斯情结会使他仿照父亲(选择配偶)的期望选择一位异性恋对象(或翻译成“客体”),这些期望是父亲这个异性恋的男人自己所接受的期望。

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“负性”改为“消极”更为合适。另“”即:

而男孩心中的消极奥狄浦斯情结会使他仿照父亲(选择配偶)的期望选择一位异性恋对象(或翻译成“客体”),这些期望是父亲这个异性恋的男人自己所接受的期望。



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上面的翻译比较匆忙,回家又仔细地想了想,又请教了懂心理学的一个朋友,所以我将上面的翻译改一下,应该这样翻译比较正确:
while the negative Oedipus complex in a boy will lead to a heterosexual object choice modeled on the desires of the father whom the heterosexual man has taken into himself.

而男孩心中的负性奥狄浦斯情结会导致一种异性对象选择,这种选择是依照这个异性恋的男孩将其内化为自己的他的父亲的期望所做出的。


解释:举个例子,比如男孩会按照父亲心中期望的理想女人的形象来选择自己的恋爱对象,并将父亲心中期望的理想女人内化为自己心中期望的理想女人。如果父亲心中理想的女人形象是温柔、贤惠、温文尔雅的,那么男孩也会找温柔、贤惠、温文尔雅的女孩做为恋爱对象。
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4 +1FYI
Jiang Yu
5父亲自己所接受的期望
liukeyu
4自己選擇進入自己父親得角色,並擁有其欲望
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自己選擇進入自己父親得角色,並擁有其欲望


Explanation:
http://tw.britannica.com/MiniSite/Article/id00044591.html

這個是伊底帕斯情結,Freud思想的重要部分。伊底帕斯弒父、娶母,並誕下嬰兒。其母知道真相之後自殺,而這個展生藥膜的大英雄自己,因為看到了生母的裸體,挖了自己的雙眼。

這是說潛意識裡男孩子和自己的生父競爭與生母進行男女之歡的權利,所以說是父親的欲望。

解釋雖然如此,不過,可能別人會翻譯得更好。

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而這個戰勝妖魔的大英雄自己 typo


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"異性戀的男性"選擇進入自己父親得角色,並擁有其欲望

"異性戀的男性應該"比"自己"更好些。

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父亲自己所接受的期望


Explanation:
while the negative Oedipus complex in a boy will lead to a heterosexual object choice modeled on the desires of the father whom the heterosexual man has taken into himself.

而男孩心中的负性奥狄浦斯情结会使他仿照父亲(选择配偶)的期望选择一位异性恋对象(或翻译成“客体”),这些期望是父亲这个异性恋的男人自己所接受的期望。

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Note added at 2 hrs (2006-03-21 09:06:29 GMT)
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“负性”改为“消极”更为合适。另“”即:

而男孩心中的消极奥狄浦斯情结会使他仿照父亲(选择配偶)的期望选择一位异性恋对象(或翻译成“客体”),这些期望是父亲这个异性恋的男人自己所接受的期望。



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Note added at 5 hrs (2006-03-21 11:42:01 GMT)
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上面的翻译比较匆忙,回家又仔细地想了想,又请教了懂心理学的一个朋友,所以我将上面的翻译改一下,应该这样翻译比较正确:
while the negative Oedipus complex in a boy will lead to a heterosexual object choice modeled on the desires of the father whom the heterosexual man has taken into himself.

而男孩心中的负性奥狄浦斯情结会导致一种异性对象选择,这种选择是依照这个异性恋的男孩将其内化为自己的他的父亲的期望所做出的。


解释:举个例子,比如男孩会按照父亲心中期望的理想女人的形象来选择自己的恋爱对象,并将父亲心中期望的理想女人内化为自己心中期望的理想女人。如果父亲心中理想的女人形象是温柔、贤惠、温文尔雅的,那么男孩也会找温柔、贤惠、温文尔雅的女孩做为恋爱对象。

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FYI


Explanation:
while the negative Oedipus complex in a boy will lead to a heterosexual object choice modeled on the desires of the father whom the heterosexual man has taken into himself
而男孩体内的阴性俄狄浦斯情结会导致对某异性对象的选择——这种选择成型于已被该异性恋男子纳入体内的其父的欲望。

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