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English to French translations [PRO] Automotive / Cars & Trucks / Abbréviation
English term or phrase:Jeep
Qui peut m'expliquer le sens de cette appellation ? Tout le monde connaît la voiture américaine qui a fait ses preuves pendant la guerre, mais j'ai un doute sur l'origine du nom. Un ami m'a donné une version, mais j'aimerais qu'on me confirme. C'est juste par curiosité pour mon fils qui m'a posé la question.
Explanation: RE: The word Jeep.
'Jeep' does come from slurring the letters GP. In WWII the Ford built jeeps were built in two versions.
1) the Ford prototype design called GP. (very rare only 3200 built, about 350 survive around the world). It (the GP) lost the army's contest to Willys (MA, version 'A').
2) The army asked Ford to build copies of the improved jeep Willys (MB, version 'B') had designed. Using Willys blueprints. This copy was called the GPW. (350,000 or so built).
GP Never stood for 'General Purpose' !!! THIS IS THE MIS-INFO. It is Ford Factory Terminology. All vehicles Ford built for the government started with a 'G' for Government. Following was a letter which stood for the wheelbase. GA, GB, GC, GD, GE, etc, getting longer each time.
When they got to 80 inches (jeep size) they were at 'P'. When they were forced/asked to build jeeps using Willys design - they added a 'W' to it. I wish Webster & all the dictionaries & encyclopedias, and 4x4 mags would stop the mis-information. They keep qouteing each other as sources, and the first guy was WRONG. Oh, yes, I have the 1941 documents to prove it. The army never even called it a jeep, officially it was 'Truck, 1/4 ton'.
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This is an email detailing the origin of the word "jeep," by someone who should know and apparently has the documents to prove it. ...
dewit.ca/archs/jeep/index.html -
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the name Jeep was chosen because it is a General Purpose Vehicle - GP 'gee-pee'. However, Chrysler then reversed it into an acronym for 'Just Enough Essential Parts' as part of the advertising campaign. www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question30636.html - 20k -
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Dans son Dictionnaire historique de la Langue Française (éd. Larousse), Alain REY souligne la double parenté communément accordée au mot jeep(1) :
n.f., est emprunté (v. 1942) à l'anglo-américain jeep (1941), nom donné à une voiture tout-terrain construite par FORD pour l'armée américaine. Le mot est la retranscription de la prononciation des initiales G.P. (djipi), de General Purpose, "tous usages", influencée par le nom d'un personnage de bande dessinée, Eugène the Jeep, à l'astuce et à la force légendaire (dans Popeye, créé le 16 mars 1936 par E.C. Seagar). Le mot apparaît en français vers 1942 mais il ne s'est diffusé massivement qu'au moment du débarquement des Américains en France, en 1945. Jeep a normalement le genre féminin en français d'après voiture et automobile (il est masculin en français du Canada).
Merci ! Vraiment, je ne pensais recevoir autant d'infos aussi recherchées et pro. :-) Je remercie aussi les autres personnes qui se sont penchées sur le sujet. 4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer
Explanation: Il est certain que la version "GP" est la plus communément admise, mais le mot jeep désignait déjà des véhicules au cours de la première guerre mondiale et n'aurait donc pas de relation directe avec les véhicules produits au cours de la deuxième. Une version voudrait que cela vienne de Eugene the Jeep, la créature de Popeye ... mais rien n'est moins sûr.
Adrien Esparron France Local time: 01:44 Native speaker of: French PRO pts in category: 39
Explanation: RE: The word Jeep.
'Jeep' does come from slurring the letters GP. In WWII the Ford built jeeps were built in two versions.
1) the Ford prototype design called GP. (very rare only 3200 built, about 350 survive around the world). It (the GP) lost the army's contest to Willys (MA, version 'A').
2) The army asked Ford to build copies of the improved jeep Willys (MB, version 'B') had designed. Using Willys blueprints. This copy was called the GPW. (350,000 or so built).
GP Never stood for 'General Purpose' !!! THIS IS THE MIS-INFO. It is Ford Factory Terminology. All vehicles Ford built for the government started with a 'G' for Government. Following was a letter which stood for the wheelbase. GA, GB, GC, GD, GE, etc, getting longer each time.
When they got to 80 inches (jeep size) they were at 'P'. When they were forced/asked to build jeeps using Willys design - they added a 'W' to it. I wish Webster & all the dictionaries & encyclopedias, and 4x4 mags would stop the mis-information. They keep qouteing each other as sources, and the first guy was WRONG. Oh, yes, I have the 1941 documents to prove it. The army never even called it a jeep, officially it was 'Truck, 1/4 ton'.
-------------------------------------------------- Note added at 6 mins (2007-12-01 02:06:32 GMT) --------------------------------------------------
This is an email detailing the origin of the word "jeep," by someone who should know and apparently has the documents to prove it. ...
dewit.ca/archs/jeep/index.html -
-------------------------------------------------- Note added at 9 hrs (2007-12-01 11:50:27 GMT) --------------------------------------------------
the name Jeep was chosen because it is a General Purpose Vehicle - GP 'gee-pee'. However, Chrysler then reversed it into an acronym for 'Just Enough Essential Parts' as part of the advertising campaign. www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question30636.html - 20k -
-------------------------------------------------- Note added at 9 hrs (2007-12-01 11:52:19 GMT) --------------------------------------------------
Dans son Dictionnaire historique de la Langue Française (éd. Larousse), Alain REY souligne la double parenté communément accordée au mot jeep(1) :
n.f., est emprunté (v. 1942) à l'anglo-américain jeep (1941), nom donné à une voiture tout-terrain construite par FORD pour l'armée américaine. Le mot est la retranscription de la prononciation des initiales G.P. (djipi), de General Purpose, "tous usages", influencée par le nom d'un personnage de bande dessinée, Eugène the Jeep, à l'astuce et à la force légendaire (dans Popeye, créé le 16 mars 1936 par E.C. Seagar). Le mot apparaît en français vers 1942 mais il ne s'est diffusé massivement qu'au moment du débarquement des Américains en France, en 1945. Jeep a normalement le genre féminin en français d'après voiture et automobile (il est masculin en français du Canada).
Drmanu49 Local time: 01:44 Works in field Native speaker of: English, French PRO pts in category: 204
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Merci ! Vraiment, je ne pensais recevoir autant d'infos aussi recherchées et pro. :-) Je remercie aussi les autres personnes qui se sont penchées sur le sujet.
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