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agnostic parties

French translation: parties neutres, indépendantes


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English term or phrase:agnostic parties
French translation:parties neutres, indépendantes
Entered by: Laure Trads
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15:30 Dec 13, 2004
English to French translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Business/Commerce (general)
English term or phrase: agnostic parties
Commodity Standards such as SCSI, Ethernet, or XML, for example, are developed with predetermined specifications outlined by cooperative, essentially agnostic parties, including trade consortia and other recognized standards bodies.
Laure Trads
France
Local time: 21:20
parties neutres, indépendantes
Explanation:
Les parties concernées dans le développement des normes ne défendent pas un produit ou une technologie en particulier, mais coopèrent pour mettre au point des protocoles. C'est en ce sens qu'elles sont neutres tout en étant réellement parties prenantes.
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Adrien Esparron
France
Local time: 21:20
Grading comment
Merci
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2parties neutres, indépendantes
Adrien Esparron
3 +2agnostic is the wrong wordDr Sue Levy
3cf. + basjacrav
2parties non-spécialistes
Conor McAuley


Discussion entries: 3





  

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15 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
agnostic is the wrong word


Explanation:
I can't see what it could possibly mean in this context, even taking the broadest definition of the word.

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Note added at 20 mins (2004-12-13 15:51:12 GMT)
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Could be one of those nasty automatic spellcheck surprises :-)

Dr Sue Levy
Local time: 21:20
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 9

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Annick Pérocheau
2 mins
  -> merci Annick :-)
neutral  Adrien Esparron: Le terme s'utilise à bien des occasions : An open standard for electronic cash would then allow a bank or other cash issuer to remain agnostic with respect to customer's software blinding or not blinding.
30 mins
  -> mauvaise utilisation dans ce cas, à ne pas propager :-)
agree  Johanne Bouthillier
7 hrs
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53 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
cf. + bas


Explanation:
De toute évidence, un choix de mot malheureux … ce qu’il veut dire, je pense, c’est qu’il s’agit de groupes sans intérêts commerciaux particuliers, non spécifiques à un type de plate-forme, par exemple, ou à des technologies couvertes par des patentes …
« des groupes sans affiliation particulière », peut-être (il aurait peut-être dû dire « écuméniques » ;))))

jacrav
Local time: 15:20
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 74

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Adrien Esparron: Les explications sont les bonnes, mais le choix du mot n'est pas maleureux : cela s'utilise dans ce sens aux States. Alors qu'aux States on ne sache pas écrire, ce n'est pas nouveau, mais donc ...
15 mins
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
parties neutres, indépendantes


Explanation:
Les parties concernées dans le développement des normes ne défendent pas un produit ou une technologie en particulier, mais coopèrent pour mettre au point des protocoles. C'est en ce sens qu'elles sont neutres tout en étant réellement parties prenantes.


    Reference: http://rfc3835.x42.com/
Adrien Esparron
France
Local time: 21:20
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 64
Grading comment
Merci

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Sabine Seguin
21 mins
  -> Merci !
agree  Stephanie Huss
18 hrs
  -> Merci : je sais que le terme interpelle, mais je l'ai déjà traduit des centaines de fois !
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17 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
parties non-spécialistes


Explanation:
Suggestion.

Agnostic in the sense of not getting involved in the fine details, like agnostics not getting involved in religion, as opposed to atheists, who do, and who have an opinion.

So agnostic - no opinion on the matter.

Unusual but creative use of the word.

That's my interpretation anyway.

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Note added at 17 hrs 4 mins (2004-12-14 08:35:25 GMT)
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So these parties do not get involved in drawing up commodity standards.

Conor McAuley
France
Local time: 21:20
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 38
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