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French translation: berry = general word / currant = specific varieties

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English term or phrase:	currant/berry
French translation:	berry = general word / currant = specific varieties
Entered by:	Florence Evans

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12:22 Apr 11, 2006

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Education / Pedagogy

English term or phrase: currant/berry

Could someone explain to me the difference between a currant and a berry, or more exactly why do we use "currant" for some specific fruits and "berry" for others.
It was a question asked by my pupils and I was unable to answer it.
Thanks for your help.

Florence Evans KudoZ activity Questions: 858 (2 open) (2 without valid answers) (1 closed without grading) Answers: 726
Local time: 13:28

berry = general word / currant = specific varieties

Explanation:
According to OED, 'berry' refers to any small juicy globular or ovate fruit not having a stone (in earlier use, also a grape)

whereas a currant is either a type of dried grape, or the small round edible berry of certain shrubs of the genus Ribes

That solves a mystery that has always puzzled me!

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Note added at 17 mins (2006-04-11 12:39:23 GMT)
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So as Drmanu so rightly gos on to say, currant = groseille (OR raisin de Corinthe when it's the dried grape variety), and berry = baie (or sometimes I guess just 'fruit'?)

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Note added at 29 mins (2006-04-11 12:51:45 GMT) Post-grading
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Florence, I don't quite understand your comment?

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Tony M
France
Local time: 13:28

Grading comment

Thank you so much Tony, but redcurrant and blackcurrant can not be dried. But your answer helped.
Thank you.
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xxxPFB

groseille et baie

Drmanu49

berry = general word / currant = specific varieties

Tony M

différents types de fruits

briski

Discussion entries: 2

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Explanation:
berry [ @berN ]
1 noun
baie f

currant
1 noun
a
Botany = fruit groseille f
also currant bush groseillier m
blackcurrant , redcurrant
b
= dried fruit raisin m de Corinthe
2 compounds
currant bun noun : petit pain m aux raisins
currant loaf noun : pain m aux raisins

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Note added at 6 mins (2006-04-11 12:28:35 GMT)
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also cassis (currant)

xxxPFB
Local time: 13:28
Works in field
Native speaker of: French
PRO pts in category: 58

14 mins confidence:

groseille et baie

Explanation:
groseille can be an adjective as in tomate groseille à grappes
it can also be used for dried currant raisin de Corinthe

Berry can also be used to mean small fruit.

Reference: http://w3.granddictionnaire.com/BTML/FRA/r_Motclef/index800_...

Drmanu49
Local time: 13:28
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English,

French
PRO pts in category: 151

16 mins confidence:

différents types de fruits

Explanation:
berry

• noun (pl. berries) 1 a small roundish juicy fruit without a stone. 2 Botany a fruit that has its seeds enclosed in a fleshy pulp, e.g. a banana or tomato

currant
• a dried fruit made from a small seedless variety of grape.
a shrub producing small edible black, red, or white berries.

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Note added at 18 mins (2006-04-11 12:41:17 GMT)
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http://www.snv.jussieu.fr/bmedia/Fruits/charnu.htm

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Note added at 19 mins (2006-04-11 12:42:10 GMT)
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http://www.snv.jussieu.fr/bmedia/Fruits/complexe.htm

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Note added at 22 mins (2006-04-11 12:45:10 GMT) Post-grading
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http://www.infovisual.info/01/035_fr.html

briski
Italy
Local time: 13:28
Native speaker of:

Italian,

French

15 mins confidence:

berry = general word / currant = specific varieties

Tony M
France
Local time: 13:28
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 23

Grading comment

Thank you so much Tony, but redcurrant and blackcurrant can not be dried. But your answer helped.
Thank you.

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