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English term or phrase:	a country within Indo-China
French translation:	Un pays de la peninsule indochinoise
Entered by:	Christine Cooreman

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11:01am Sep 29, 2005

English to French translations [PRO]
Geography

English term or phrase: a country within Indo-China

This is about the possible origins of a child to be adopted: the would-be parents are applying to adopt a child from this geographical area. But in French I seem to remember that "L'Indochine" is something quite specific (and not appropriate here). Any suggestions please?

Josephine79

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Questions: 41 (2 open)
Answers: 220

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Clarification request(s) and response

Josephine79: 11:14am Sep 29, 2005: Why not Indochine? - I'd rather avoid "l'Indochine" as I think they include China itself in the area they are considering.
Philippe Boucry: 11:18am Sep 29, 2005: You wrote that L'Indochine is not suitable. You can't use Indochine on its own (without article) and if you use "en Indochine" etc, we're back to the beginning ;-) -

Un pays de la peninsule indochinoise

Explanation:
This is what I found on Onternet, and I think it gives a very precise description of that part of the world!
(It's true that, for French people Indochine is an old colony and bloody wars or a quite good rock music group (French group)...

L'Indochine ou péninsule indochinoise ou Asie du Sud-Est continentale est une péninsule du continent asiatique située entre la Chine et l'Inde. Elle est entourée à l'ouest par le Golfe du Bengale, la mer d'Andaman et le détroit de Malacca et à l'est par la mer de Chine méridionale. Traditionnellement, les bouches du Gange formaient sa limite occidentale. Elle comprend les pays et territoires suivants :

la Birmanie
le Cambodge
le Laos
Singapour
la Thaïlande
le Vietnam
les territoires continentaux de la Malaisie, c'est-à-dire les États de Johor, Kedah, Kelantan, Melaka, Negeri Sembilan, Pahang, Perak, Penang, Selangor et Terengganu, les districts fédéraux de Kuala Lumpur et Putrajaya.
L'expression Indochine est souvent utilisée pour désigner l'ancienne colonie d'Indochine française.

Selected response from:

Christine Cooreman
Greece

Note from asker to answerer

Thank you, and thanks also to Arnaud who has made some very pertinent remarks about the different terms proposed.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

5 +1

Un pays de la peninsule indochinoise

Christine Cooreman

3 +2

un pays du sud-est asiatique / au sud-est de l'Asie

Philippe Boucry

Asie du Sud-Est

Dominique Maréchal

un pays faisant partie de l'indochine

emiledgar

de l'Asie orientale

J S

3 -1

d'un des pays qui constituaient l'Indochine "française".

Hervé Fuyet

Answers

5 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

a country within indo-china un pays du sud-est asiatique / au sud-est de l'Asie

Explanation:
puisque vous ne souhaitez pas utiliser Indochine (Cambodge/Vietnam/Laos)

Philippe Boucry
France
Native speaker of:

French

Note from asker to answerer

Thanks anyway Philippe - in the event I decided to go for the widest possible interpretation as the would-be adopters were being "inclusive" rather than "exclusive" when identifying the countries they were considering.

The asker has declined this answer
Comment: Thanks anyway Philippe - in the event I decided to go for the widest possible interpretation as the would-be adopters were being "inclusive" rather than "exclusive" when identifying the countries they were considering.

12 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

a country within indo-china Un pays de la peninsule indochinoise

Explanation:
This is what I found on Onternet, and I think it gives a very precise description of that part of the world!
(It's true that, for French people Indochine is an old colony and bloody wars or a quite good rock music group (French group)...

L'Indochine ou péninsule indochinoise ou Asie du Sud-Est continentale est une péninsule du continent asiatique située entre la Chine et l'Inde. Elle est entourée à l'ouest par le Golfe du Bengale, la mer d'Andaman et le détroit de Malacca et à l'est par la mer de Chine méridionale. Traditionnellement, les bouches du Gange formaient sa limite occidentale. Elle comprend les pays et territoires suivants :

la Birmanie
le Cambodge
le Laos
Singapour
la Thaïlande
le Vietnam
les territoires continentaux de la Malaisie, c'est-à-dire les États de Johor, Kedah, Kelantan, Melaka, Negeri Sembilan, Pahang, Perak, Penang, Selangor et Terengganu, les districts fédéraux de Kuala Lumpur et Putrajaya.
L'expression Indochine est souvent utilisée pour désigner l'ancienne colonie d'Indochine française.

Reference: http://www.fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/indochine

Christine Cooreman
Greece
Native speaker of:

Greek,

French
PRO pts in category: 4

Note from asker to answerer

Thank you, and thanks also to Arnaud who has made some very pertinent remarks about the different terms proposed.

15 mins confidence:

a country within indo-china Asie du Sud-Est

Explanation:
L'Indochine ne comprenait que le Vietnam, le Laos et le Cambodge. On parle maintenant d'Asie du Sud-Est qui englobe davantage de pays.

Dominique Maréchal
Netherlands
Native speaker of:

French

Note from asker to answerer

Thank you for this answer, it did help me sort out what I was going to put.

The asker has declined this answer
Comment: Thank you for this answer, it did help me sort out what I was going to put.

24 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

a country within indo-china d'un des pays qui constituaient l'Indochine "française".

Explanation:
Le contexte est insuffisant. Il se peut que ce soit une référence à l'ancien empire colonial français.Ce n'est qu'une hypothèse!

Hervé Fuyet
France
Native speaker of:

French

Note from asker to answerer

Sorry, but as Arnaud says, a speaker of British English like the person writing here would not read all this in to "a country within indo-china". Especially as she wants to be inclusive rather than exclusive in refering to the possible origins of a child to adopt.

The asker has declined this answer
Comment: Sorry, but as Arnaud says, a speaker of British English like the person writing here would not read all this in to "a country within indo-china". Especially as she wants to be inclusive rather than exclusive in refering to the possible origins of a child to adopt.

1 hr confidence:

a country within indo-china de l'Asie orientale

Explanation:
Salut Joséphine,

Malgré que je suis d'accord avec la réponse Asie du Sud Est, si les parents incluent la Chine dans leurs choix de pays, je pense qu'il faut peut-être aller plus vers l'Asie Orientale qui comprend la région allant de la Chine jusqu'au Vietnam, etc.

Voir: http://iao.ish-lyon.cnrs.fr/francais/axe1.html

J S
France
Native speaker of:

English

Note from asker to answerer

Thank you, this is what I in fact put in the translation : but I felt the points should go to Christine as she gave the best translation (IMO) of the term I asked for.

The asker has declined this answer
Comment: Thank you, this is what I in fact put in the translation : but I felt the points should go to Christine as she gave the best translation (IMO) of the term I asked for.

3 hrs confidence:

a country within indo-china un pays faisant partie de l'indochine

Explanation:
do we need to get more complicated?...

emiledgar
Belgium
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English,

French

Note from asker to answerer

Sorry, but I thought I had made it clear that we DID need to find a different solution as this is a native speaker of British English who is unaware of all the colonial connotations of "l'indochine"

The asker has declined this answer
Comment: Sorry, but I thought I had made it clear that we DID need to find a different solution as this is a native speaker of British English who is unaware of all the colonial connotations of "l'indochine"

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English: a country within Indo-China

French translation: Un pays de la peninsule indochinoise