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old boys syndrome

French translation: le phénomène de solidarité entre pairs

14:32 Mar 30, 2008
English to French translations [PRO]
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English term or phrase: old boys syndrome
Dans une procédure de recrutement.
Ai un doute sur le sens.

"Generally one should take references with the candidate’s manager or someone with a supervisory relationship who can attest to their professional abilities and behaviour. In certain cases it can be useful to follow up with peers or direct reports who can comment on their managerial capabilities, although one should be wary of the “old boys syndrome”.

Merci pour vos suggestions et explications.
Alice CORDEBARD - DUCHET
France
Local time: 17:01
French translation:le phénomène de solidarité entre pairs
Explanation:
on ne lâche pas les copains
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CMJ_Trans (X)
Local time: 17:01
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Merci à tous.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2syndrome du réseau des anciens (elèves)
socratisv
5syndrome de copinage
schevallier
3 +1l'impact du copinage ou des anciennnes camaraderies
Drmanu49
3 +1syndrome des "vieux copains"
Euqinimod (X)
3le phénomène de solidarité entre pairs
CMJ_Trans (X)
3l'effet 'réseau'
ormiston


Discussion entries: 2





  

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3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
l'impact du copinage ou des anciennnes camaraderies


Explanation:
IMO

Drmanu49
France
Local time: 17:01
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 55

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Jonathan MacKerron
4 hrs
  -> Thank you Jonathan.
neutral  GILLES MEUNIER: on ne peut pas traduire syndrome par impact, c'est un autre niveau de langue...
21 hrs
  -> Syndrome n'a rien de médical ni rien à voir ici. C'est ça l'art de la traduction.
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10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
syndrome des "vieux copains"


Explanation:
bien qu'il faille se méfier du syndrome des "vieux copains".

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Note added at 23 minutes (2008-03-30 14:56:20 GMT)
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On pourrait rajouter "vieux copains de promo", s'il ne s'agit effectivement que d'anciennes camaraderies. Mais est-ce que ne peuvent être englobés dans l'expression les copinages nés d'une longue fréquentation dans une situation de travail ?

Euqinimod (X)
Local time: 17:01
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 36

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Jonathan MacKerron: this is how I also understand it
4 hrs
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37 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
syndrome du réseau des anciens (elèves)


Explanation:
une forme de corporatisme....

socratisv
Greece
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Native speaker of: Native in GreekGreek, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 20

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  GILLES MEUNIER: Toi aussi...
3 mins
  -> Merci, Gilles. Bonne fin d'a.m.
agree  Daniel Marquis: Oui, je pencherais pour cette version aussi.
2 hrs
  -> Merci!
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38 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
le phénomène de solidarité entre pairs


Explanation:
on ne lâche pas les copains

CMJ_Trans (X)
Local time: 17:01
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 126
Grading comment
Merci à tous.
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
l'effet 'réseau'


Explanation:
it could be chaps from Oxford etc. too, not just public schools. If the text aims beyond this, perhaps 'réseau' might work. The negative slant to Tony's 'pistonage' might be better though, as here is the French TRYING to establish a similar kind of 'networking' (!)
« Toutes les grandes écoles ont un réseau d’anciens élèves, mais le problème est qu’il est difficilement exploitable. Nous avons essayé d’utiliser les vertus du networking pour l’appliquer concrètement et permettre la mise en relation entre les élèves, anciens et recruteurs », nous explique Jean Mariotte, cofondateur du réseau social Weavlink.

ormiston
Local time: 17:01
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 8
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53 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
syndrome de copinage


Explanation:
le risque de se renseigner auprès de vieux copains du candidat, qui ne seraient pas impartiaux

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Note added at 4 hrs (2008-03-30 19:23:27 GMT)
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Pour les anciens d'une même école, on dirait :
"syndrome de chapelle"...

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Note added at 5 hrs (2008-03-30 20:23:10 GMT)
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on dit, en fait "esprit de chapelle"
cette fois c'est le sens exact

schevallier
Local time: 17:01
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
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