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English: Based on one month's...

French translation: une lettre officielle assujettie à un préavis d'un mois







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English term or phrase:a formal letter based on a one-month notice
French translation:une lettre officielle assujettie à un préavis d'un mois
Entered by:Gabrielle Allemand-Mostefaï
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English to French translations [PRO]
Law: Contract(s)
English term or phrase: Based on one month's...
Dans une lettre servant d'offre d'embauche, il est prévu:
"At the end of this time (réfère à la période d'essai de 3 mois), ******a formal letter based on one month's written notice on either side ******* will be issued along with your contract of employment, subject to satisfactory performance".

Je sèche sur le sens de ce qui est entre *****...
Magali Brazier
France
Clarification request(s) and response
Marc Glinert: 2:08pm Sep 14, 2006: As it stands, this is incomprehensible.
What does it mean?
Marc Glinert: 2:09pm Sep 14, 2006: That, after the end of the trial period and if the employee performs satisfactorily, the employer will issue a letter stating that either side will be able to break the contract one month after informing the other in writing of its intention to do so?
Marc Glinert: 2:10pm Sep 14, 2006: Brief note to Gabrielle: what about the “on either side” part?
I can't see any problem with "one month's written notice", unless there is another ' I have not seen.
Magali Brazier: 2:11pm Sep 14, 2006: Là est ma question... - Cela est tout autant incompréhensible pour moi..... Et j'ai correctement copié le passage....

une lettre officielle avec préavis d'un mois
Explanation:
Je suppose qu'il s'agit d'une lettre d'embauche définitive qui peut être dénoncée par l'une ou l'autre des parties sur préavis d'un mois (sinon je ne vois pas à quoi sert le préavis). Sous toutes réserves... c'est un peu étrange... comme si on mettait les boeufs après la charrue (soit dit en passant, l'apostrophe s est une faute)

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Note added at 7 hrs (2006-09-14 19:43:48 GMT)
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Note to Marc (not enough space in the response field). "on either side" I rendered by "par l'une ou l'autre des parties" (employer/employee). As I said, I agree with your explanation in the sense that it seems more logical than what is (poorly) written in English. But the fact that the letter accompanies the contract made me think of those "proposal letters" or "engagement letters" that briefly state the main terms of the work contract without being the contract itself. Of course I may be absolutely wrong and I think the poor drafting should be brought to the attention of the client.
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Gabrielle Allemand-Mostefaï
France
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J'ai choisi d'écrire "assujettie à un préavis....." .
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4 +1conformément au préavis d'un moisMultiPro
3Note for GabrielleMarc Glinert
3 -1une lettre officielle avec préavis d'un mois
Gabrielle Allemand-Mostefaï


  

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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
based on one month's... conformément au préavis d'un mois

Explanation:
...une lettre officielle conformément au préavis d'un mois que les deux parties doivent donner par écrit.

(selon le préavis d'un mois que chacun des contractants doit soumettre par écrit) -- Alternative.
HTH.

MultiPro
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Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 58

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based on one month's... une lettre officielle avec préavis d'un mois

Explanation:
Je suppose qu'il s'agit d'une lettre d'embauche définitive qui peut être dénoncée par l'une ou l'autre des parties sur préavis d'un mois (sinon je ne vois pas à quoi sert le préavis). Sous toutes réserves... c'est un peu étrange... comme si on mettait les boeufs après la charrue (soit dit en passant, l'apostrophe s est une faute)

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Note added at 7 hrs (2006-09-14 19:43:48 GMT)
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Note to Marc (not enough space in the response field). "on either side" I rendered by "par l'une ou l'autre des parties" (employer/employee). As I said, I agree with your explanation in the sense that it seems more logical than what is (poorly) written in English. But the fact that the letter accompanies the contract made me think of those "proposal letters" or "engagement letters" that briefly state the main terms of the work contract without being the contract itself. Of course I may be absolutely wrong and I think the poor drafting should be brought to the attention of the client.

Gabrielle Allemand-Mostefaï
France
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 68
Note from asker to answerer
J'ai choisi d'écrire "assujettie à un préavis....." .
Notes to answerer
Asker: Je pense qu'Alexandre a raison...enfin, je vais espérer car c'est dans ce sens que j'ai traduit la phrase! Merci à tous...


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral Marc Glinert: kindly see comments above, Gabrielle
1 hr
  -> I mostly agree with your comments above re the meaning. But the context given says that the letter will be issued "along with the contract". As for the ', IMHO the correct form is "a one-month written notice". The month does not possess the notice.

disagree Alexandre Coutu: Peut-on envoyer une lettre avec préavis d'un mois? La tournure me semble incorrecte. Je pense que la lettre annonce un contrat que les deux parties ont un mois pour accepter ou décliner.
1 hr
  -> Vous avez sans doute raison, par "avec" je voulais dire "comportant". Mais l'anglais dit bien que la lettre accompagne le contrat.
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based on one month's... Note for Gabrielle

Explanation:
Please accept my humble apologies, Gabrielle for « par l'une ou l'autre des parties ». Can’t think why I didn’t notice that part of your reply.

On a complete side-track, I would never go with “a one-month written notice”.

“un préavis” may be translated as either
“notice” (no article, but preceeded by a length of time) or “a period of notice”.

I know that web references are a very unstable currency (in fact, I am the first to point out their shortcomings). But I believe this URL from the site of Queen’s University Belfast gets it right.

Reference below

See Termination of Employment section, where you will find “1 month's notice, 2 months' notice, 3 months' notice…"

Aside from this, 5.5m ghits support “1 month's notice”

Anyway, I look forward to meeting up with you on future posts which are rather better worded in the source language. Regards.



    Reference: http://www.qub.ac.uk/home/TheUniversity/GeneralServices/TheS...
Marc Glinert
France
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PRO pts in category: 31
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