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French translation: sociétés pharmaceutiques


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18:02 Nov 17, 2009
English to French translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Medical: Pharmaceuticals / Pharmacies de détail / (dé)réglementation.
English term or phrase: pharmaceutical industry
Contexte :

Dans une présentation Power Point.

"The state monopoly is replaced with a pharmacy system where anyone except *** pharmaceutical industry *** or prescribers can own pharmacies".

Le terme "pharmaceutical industry" est probablement mal utilisé dans le texte source.

Comment traduire "pharmaceutical industry" ?

les participants à/membres de l'industrie pharmaceutique ?
les industrie/sociétés pharmaceutiques ?
l'industrie pharmaceutique ( même si l'industrie pharmaceutique n'a pas d'existence juridique ) ?

Je penche pour "les industries/sociétés pharmaceutiques" sans en être très satisfait de la cohérence de l'ensemble.

Des suggestions ?
Arnold007
Local time: 02:09
French translation:sociétés pharmaceutiques
Explanation:
C'est ce que je dirais.

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... parce que, en effet, l'industrie pharmaceutique n'a pas d'existence juridique et ne peut donc pas être propriétaire de pharmacies.

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... en admettant que le choix de "pharmaceutical industry" dans le texte source ne soit pas des plus heureux.

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Par contre, si le choix était délibéré, il faut aller dans le sens de SJLD : les sociétés ayant des intérêts dans l'industrie pharmaceutique. C'est peut-être le moment de poser la question au client Arnold, si c'est possible.
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Joco
Local time: 02:09
Grading comment
Cela me convient très bien. Merci Joco !
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Summary of answers provided
5 +3l'industrie pharmaceutiquexxx::::::::::
4 +2sociétés pharmaceutiquesJoco
4 +2les industriels de la pharmacie ou les laboratoires pharamceutiques
Drmanu49
4 +1les acteurs de l'industrie pharmaceutique
SJLD
4une industrie pharmaceutiquexxxLionel_M
Summary of reference entries provided
liz askew

Discussion entries: 8





  

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2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
une industrie pharmaceutique


Explanation:
IMO

xxxLionel_M
Local time: 08:09
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 161

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  liz askew: Here they are talking about the pharmaceutical industry not being able to own pharmacies./See my further references. The English language is subtle./Well, logically it makes sense to me here.
2 hrs
  -> Not the matter of English Liz; just a matter of logic IMO.
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2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
les industriels de la pharmacie ou les laboratoires pharamceutiques


Explanation:
IMO

Drmanu49
Local time: 08:09
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  mchd
2 hrs
  -> Thank you.
agree  Miguel Garcia Lopez
3 hrs
  -> Thank you Miguel.
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15 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
les acteurs de l'industrie pharmaceutique


Explanation:
Il ne s'agit pas seulement des fabricants mais aussi des distributeurs/grossistes j'imagine, et toute personne impliquée dans la chaine commerciale entre laboratoire et pharmacie.

SJLD
Local time: 08:09
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PRO pts in category: 176
Notes to answerer
Asker: C'est exactement le problème auquel je fais face. Je crois que le texte est incorrect ( incohérent ). Je voudrais, si possible, ne pas réfléter cette incohérence dans ma traduction ( ou le devrais-je plutôt ? ). D'un autre côté, je ne suis quand même pas pour écrire un projet de loi présentable en première lecture ... Il y a des limites à la traduction responsable !


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agree  Anne Pietrasik
9 mins
  -> merci Anne :-)
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16 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +3
l'industrie pharmaceutique


Explanation:
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Industrie pharmaceutique - Wikipédia
L'industrie pharmaceutique est le secteur économique qui regroupe les activités de recherche, de fabrication et de commercialisation des médicaments pour la ...
Historique - Économie - Acteurs - Controverse
fr.wikipedia.org/.../Industrie_pharmaceutique - En cache - Pages similaires -
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LEEM - Les entreprises du médicament - Industrie pharmaceutique
Le Leem, Les Entreprises du médicament, regroupe les entreprises du secteur de l'industrie pharmaceutique en France. Information sur le médicament, ...
www.leem.org/ - En cache - Pages similaires -
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LannuairePharma.com |
Sociétés partenaires; Industrie pharmaceutique; Organismes officiels; Syndicats et association. L'agence Prunelle et le groupe TBWA France ont signé. ...

Afficher le plan de Avenue Charles de Gaulle, 92200 Neuilly-sur-Seine
www.lannuairepharma.com/ - En cache - Pages similaires -
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PHARMAnetwork emploi - L' emploi de l'industrie pharmaceutique et ...
Le recrutement sur l'Internet des industrie de santé. rassemble au coeur d'un réseau relationnel: recruteurs, enseignants, candidats, cadres confirmés.
www.pharmanetwork.com/ - En cache - Pages similaires -
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L'Equateur défie l'industrie pharmaceutique - LeMonde.fr
29 oct 2009 ... Le Monde.fr - Au nom de l'accès de tous aux médicaments, le pays a décidé de passer outre les brevets des laboratoires.
www.lemonde.fr/.../l-equateur-defie-l-industrie-pharmaceuti... -
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nouvelle adresse de l'Acip
Pour entrer dans le nouveau site cliquez ici: · www.acip-asso.fr.
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Bourse de l'emploi de l'industrie pharmaceutique et des ...
Bourse de l'emploi du Leem, 1er site emploi du secteur : annonces offres d'emplois et de stages, candidatures dans l'industrie pharmaceutique et les ...
www.emploi.leem.org/ - En cache - Pages similaires -
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Sécu : l'UMP favorise-t-elle l'industrie pharmaceutique ...
29 oct 2009 ... Dans le cadre de l'examen du projet de loi de financement de la Sécurité sociale pour 2010, les députés PS accusent...
tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/.../secu__lump_favorisetelle_lindustrie_pharmaceutique_.html -
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Consultation d'offres d'emploi dans l'industrie pharmaceutique ...
vous êtes à la recherche d'une offre d'emploi en laboratoire phamaceutique en tant que chef de projet, stagiaire, pharmacien ou autres, consultez les offres ...
www.pharmaceutiques.com/.../consulteroffres/ - En cache - Pages similaires -
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Association Marocaine de l'Industrie Pharmaceutique
L'industrie pharmaceutique marocaine a connu au cours des 20 dernières années un développement sans conteste satisfaisant. Son niveau de performance et de ...

xxx::::::::::
Iraq
Local time: 08:09
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  liz askew: FWIW, I think "the" is missing in the original. http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=except the p...
5 mins
agree  Beila Goldberg: Cela tombe sous le sens même sans aucune référence : ce sont les termes repris contammment dans tous les medias (de ce côté de l'Atlantique).
4 hrs
agree  Irène Guinez
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25 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
sociétés pharmaceutiques


Explanation:
C'est ce que je dirais.

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Note added at 40 minutes (2009-11-17 18:43:07 GMT)
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... parce que, en effet, l'industrie pharmaceutique n'a pas d'existence juridique et ne peut donc pas être propriétaire de pharmacies.

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 1 heure (2009-11-17 19:28:16 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

... en admettant que le choix de "pharmaceutical industry" dans le texte source ne soit pas des plus heureux.

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 1 heure (2009-11-17 19:32:37 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Par contre, si le choix était délibéré, il faut aller dans le sens de SJLD : les sociétés ayant des intérêts dans l'industrie pharmaceutique. C'est peut-être le moment de poser la question au client Arnold, si c'est possible.

Joco
Local time: 02:09
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 12
Grading comment
Cela me convient très bien. Merci Joco !

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  François Begon
1 hr
  -> Merci François.
agree  liz askew: This would work too, but it would be best to contact the client to be on the safe side.
3 hrs
  -> Thank you liz.
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Reference comments


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Reference

Reference information:
Hello ArnoldOO7

Why don't you contact your client/the author?

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Note added at 3 hrs (2009-11-17 21:08:53 GMT)
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Here is a very informative site. I believe here "the pharmaceutical industry" is an overall umbrella term for "pharmaceutical companies". When we talk about the pharmaceutical industry this is what we mean.

http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:j2Rl8sgcHY0J:www.resour...


UK Pharmacy Model

In the United Kingdom, a pharmacy may be owned by a pharmacist, a company whose partners are pharmacists, or a private limited company managed by a qualified pharmacist. Only pharmacy association members can manage a pharmacy. A pharmacist can only manage one pharmacy. However, a pharmacist or a company can own several pharmacies. Chains of pharmacies are permitted in the United Kingdom. However, there has to be a pharmacist in charge of the pharmacy and discounts on medicines are prohibited.

In Scotland, both pharmaceutical and non-pharmaceutical companies are permitted. A license from the Royal Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain is needed to open a pharmacy. Moreover, permission must also be received from the local health authorities to dispense National Health Service (NHS) prescriptions. This permit is notified to the owners of other pharmacies in the same area and to several other organisations. Objections may be presented and there is a right of appeal against the local health authority's decision.

There are no geographical or demographic distribution criteria regulating the opening of pharmacies in the United Kingdom. Nevertheless, in order to issue a new National Health Service contract, the applicant must show that a new contract is necessary or desirable for the provision of a pharmaceutical service under the National Health to the residents of that area.

There are no restrictions on the sale of a pharmacy, as long as the new owner meets the stipulated conditions for ownership. In the United Kingdom, the "new pharmacies" derogation is applied in accordance with article 2 of the EU Directive 85/433/EEC. Thus a pharmacist from another EU member state can only take responsibility for a pharmacy that has been operating for over three years. The derogation applies to the running of the pharmacy, not to its ownership.


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The above site I quoted will inform you about the different practices in different countries:)

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http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:61JCGSjeL6gJ:www.abpi.o...


INFORCE is jointly and equally funded by Nottingham City PCT and the pharmaceutical industry (five pharmaceutical companies working alongside the ABPI under the auspices of the ABPI NHS Outreach Programme). It is the second such collaboration with the pharmaceutical industry, following the successful partnering that devised the Happy Hearts CVD Risk Management project currently underway in the city.

Jan Balmer, Regional Facilitator for the ABPI said: “We are delighted to once again be working in partnership with Nottingham City PCT on such an important project. We all have a shared interest in improving people’s health and reducing their need for hospital treatment. “The pharmaceutical industry is committed to working with the NHS throughout the UK to identify and develop similar opportunities where we can benefit patients by sharing our skills, experience and resources with the NHS.”

liz askew
United Kingdom
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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Note to reference poster
Asker: Hi Liz ! I will contact the author, but at the very end with all my questions. Thanks for the suggestion !

Asker: Great references Liz ! Thanks a lot !


Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  SJLD: exactly - the industry can't own a pharmacy but a company could. What the text is saying is that companies involved in the pharma industry MAY NOT
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