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Full grave cover; Lawn Cemetery

French translation: pierre tombale : cimetière enherbé


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English term or phrase:Full grave cover; Lawn Cemetery
French translation:pierre tombale : cimetière enherbé
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18:00 Nov 10, 2011
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Military / Defense / expression
English term or phrase: Full grave cover; Lawn Cemetery
Here is the context''On average, memorials are completed within the following timeframes, from the date the completed form is received by the Office of Australian War Graves:

Type of Memorial Time Taken
Full grave cover six months
Lawn Cemetery/Crematorium four months
Garden of Remembrance three months

Full grave covers may take longer due to individual cemetery regulations or ...''

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pierre tombale : cimetière enherbé
Explanation:
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Note added at 14 hrs (2011-11-11 08:14:40 GMT)
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"Lawn cemetery

A lawn cemetery (as the name suggests) is covered in grass. Each grave is marked with a commemorative plaque (around 30 cm x 20 cm is typical) placed horizontally at the head of the grave at ground-level. While families are normally still involved in the design and information contained on the plaque, generally the size and materials of the plaque are constrained by the cemetery authorities, who often strongly encourage (or in some cases mandate) the use of a standard design.
An old municipal cemetery in Otley, Yorkshire, England

Typically, lawn cemeteries comprise a number of graves in this lawn setting with trees and gardens on the perimeter. While aesthetic appeal to family members has been the primary driver for the development of lawn cemeteries, cemetery authorities were initially very enthusiastic about this new style of cemetery, as they appeared to be easier to maintain. By initially selecting (or grading) the land intended for a lawn cemetery to be completely flat, it allows the use of large efficient mowers (such as ride-on mowers or lawn tractors) to be used as the plaques (being horizontally set in the ground) lie below the level of the blades and are not damaged by the blades. Unfortunately, in practice, while families are often initially attracted to the uncluttered appearance of a lawn cemetery, the common practice of placing flowers (sometimes in vases) and increasingly other items (e.g. small toys on children's graves) re-introduces some clutter to the cemetery and makes it difficult to use the larger mowers. While cemetery authorities increasingly impose restrictions on the nature and type of objects that can be placed on lawn graves and actively remove prohibited items, grieving families are often unwilling to comply with these restrictions and become very upset if the items are removed. Another problem with lawn cemeteries is that over time the grass can grow over and cover the plaque to the distress of families who can no longer easily locate the grave. Grasses that propagate by an above-ground stolon (aka runner) can cover a plaque very quickly. Grasses that propagate by a below-ground rhizome tend not to cover the plaque as easily.
Calvary Cemetery, Queens, New York.

A lawn beam cemetery is a recent development which seeks to solve the problems of the lawn cemetery while retaining many of its benefits. Low (10–15 cm) raised concrete slabs (beams) are placed across the cemetery. Commemorative plaques (usually standardised in terms of size and materials similar to lawn cemeteries) are placed on these beams adjacent to each grave. The graves themselves are covered with grass like a lawn cemetery. The areas between the beams are large enough that they are easy to mow with a larger mower. As the mower blades are set lower than the top of the beam and the mowers do not go over the beam, the blades cannot damage the plaques. Up on the beam, the plaques cannot be easily overgrown by grass and there is space between the plaques for families to place flowers and other objects without interfering with the mowing."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cemetery#Lawn_cemetery
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FX Fraipont
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4 +2pierre tombale; mémorial
Virginie Schmitt
4pierre tombale : cimetière enherbé
FX Fraipont
3tombalemchd


  

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25 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
full grave cover; lawn cemetery
tombale


Explanation:
http://www.societemcp.fr/monument.htm

mchd
France
Local time: 12:23
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33 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
full grave cover; lawn cemetery
pierre tombale : cimetière enherbé


Explanation:
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Note added at 14 hrs (2011-11-11 08:14:40 GMT)
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"Lawn cemetery

A lawn cemetery (as the name suggests) is covered in grass. Each grave is marked with a commemorative plaque (around 30 cm x 20 cm is typical) placed horizontally at the head of the grave at ground-level. While families are normally still involved in the design and information contained on the plaque, generally the size and materials of the plaque are constrained by the cemetery authorities, who often strongly encourage (or in some cases mandate) the use of a standard design.
An old municipal cemetery in Otley, Yorkshire, England

Typically, lawn cemeteries comprise a number of graves in this lawn setting with trees and gardens on the perimeter. While aesthetic appeal to family members has been the primary driver for the development of lawn cemeteries, cemetery authorities were initially very enthusiastic about this new style of cemetery, as they appeared to be easier to maintain. By initially selecting (or grading) the land intended for a lawn cemetery to be completely flat, it allows the use of large efficient mowers (such as ride-on mowers or lawn tractors) to be used as the plaques (being horizontally set in the ground) lie below the level of the blades and are not damaged by the blades. Unfortunately, in practice, while families are often initially attracted to the uncluttered appearance of a lawn cemetery, the common practice of placing flowers (sometimes in vases) and increasingly other items (e.g. small toys on children's graves) re-introduces some clutter to the cemetery and makes it difficult to use the larger mowers. While cemetery authorities increasingly impose restrictions on the nature and type of objects that can be placed on lawn graves and actively remove prohibited items, grieving families are often unwilling to comply with these restrictions and become very upset if the items are removed. Another problem with lawn cemeteries is that over time the grass can grow over and cover the plaque to the distress of families who can no longer easily locate the grave. Grasses that propagate by an above-ground stolon (aka runner) can cover a plaque very quickly. Grasses that propagate by a below-ground rhizome tend not to cover the plaque as easily.
Calvary Cemetery, Queens, New York.

A lawn beam cemetery is a recent development which seeks to solve the problems of the lawn cemetery while retaining many of its benefits. Low (10–15 cm) raised concrete slabs (beams) are placed across the cemetery. Commemorative plaques (usually standardised in terms of size and materials similar to lawn cemeteries) are placed on these beams adjacent to each grave. The graves themselves are covered with grass like a lawn cemetery. The areas between the beams are large enough that they are easy to mow with a larger mower. As the mower blades are set lower than the top of the beam and the mowers do not go over the beam, the blades cannot damage the plaques. Up on the beam, the plaques cannot be easily overgrown by grass and there is space between the plaques for families to place flowers and other objects without interfering with the mowing."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cemetery#Lawn_cemetery

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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
full grave cover; lawn cemetery
pierre tombale; mémorial


Explanation:
full cover grave: pierre tombale
lawn cemetary: mémorial or cimetière militaire.




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Note added at 22 hrs (2011-11-11 16:07:59 GMT)
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En France c'est le contraire, seuls les cimetières du genre mémorial militaire ont cet aspect . On les trouve en général sur les sites dédiés à la mémoire des soldats américains, australiens, canadiens et britanniques tombés pour la France lors des deux guerres mondiales. Le terme de cimetière évoque l'image des cimetières traditionnels: pierres tombales, caveaux de famille alignés dans des allées de gravier. Un cimetière est clos par un mur d'enceinte et fermé par un portail. On est bien loin de "lawn cemetery" d'où le choix du terme mémorial qui évoque immédiatement un espace ouvert, de la pelouse et des rangées de simples stèles alignées.


    Reference: http://www.cheminsdememoire.gouv.fr/page/affichegalerie.php?...
    Reference: http://www.obseques-infos.com/conseils/marbrerie
Virginie Schmitt
France
Local time: 12:23
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  GILLES MEUNIER: dans le contexte militaire, absolument
3 hrs
  -> merci !

agree  Bernard LOMBARD
6 hrs
  -> merci !

neutral  FX Fraipont: chez les anglo-saxons, le "lawn cemetery" est la norme, et n'est pas limité aux cimetières mimitaires et autres mémoriaux // C'est la traduction d'un texte qui concerne la situation dans les paysAnglo-Saxons, pas en France!!!
6 hrs
  -> mais en France c'est plutôt le contraire
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