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as worse than useless

French translation: moins- que- rien


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GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW)
English term or phrase:as worse than useless
French translation:moins- que- rien
Entered by: Agnes Grand Fay
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10:58 Jan 19, 2012
English to French translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Poetry & Literature / récit de voyage
English term or phrase: as worse than useless
Bonjour à tous,
Extrait d'un récit de voyage
Le narrateur se retrouve dans un casino sordide. Il a mal en voyant les pauvres gens se ruiner pour jouer au casino.
At the most respectable gambling places (this may be a rather anomalous phrase, but I am speaking comparatively), the administration pay the expenses of those who are cleared out back to their home, considering them when they have no money left as worse than useless.

Merci de votre aide
Kévin Bacquet
France
Local time: 12:29
moins- que- rien
Explanation:
"moins-que- rien",literally:less than nothing
"bon-à-rien"is an alternative , albeit slightly lower register: good-for-nothing.
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Agnes Grand Fay
Local time: 12:29
Grading comment
Merci beaucoup ! Votre proposition allait parfaitement avec ma phrase
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Summary of answers provided
3 +8ayant perdu tout intérêt
LauretteT
3 +2(les considérant) on ne peut plus inutilespolyglot45
4 +1moins- que- rien
Agnes Grand Fay
3 +1pire qu'inutiles
Françoise Vogel
4bons à rien
Sébastien GUITTENY
3comme n'ayant plus aucune utilité
Pascale van Kempen-Herlant


Discussion entries: 7





  

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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
pire qu'inutiles


Explanation:

Fiche - Relations internationales. Une perspective européenne
www.editions-universite-bruxelles.be/fiche/view/2542
Sinon, elle est pire qu'inutile, une distraction. Nous avons besoin du débat théorique pour comprendre les grands défis de l'humanité et ainsi aider les êtres ...

Françoise Vogel
Local time: 12:29
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Oumou Samoura: La reponse de Francoise est plus appropriee. La phrase veut dire qu'il considere ceux qui n'ont plus d'argent "comme pire qu'inutiles".
2 days10 hrs
  -> merci :)
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11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
moins- que- rien


Explanation:
"moins-que- rien",literally:less than nothing
"bon-à-rien"is an alternative , albeit slightly lower register: good-for-nothing.

Example sentence(s):
  • Elle considère son ex, un ivrogne, comme un moins-que-rien.
Agnes Grand Fay
Local time: 12:29
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PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Merci beaucoup ! Votre proposition allait parfaitement avec ma phrase

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Kelly Harrison
16 mins
  -> Merci , thank you Kelly
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15 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
comme n'ayant plus aucune utilité


Explanation:
autre idée

Pascale van Kempen-Herlant
Local time: 12:29
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 8
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4 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +8
ayant perdu tout intérêt


Explanation:
moins qu'inutiles n'est pas idiomatique.

intérêt rappel aussi la notion d'argent

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ayant perdu tout intérêt puisque sans le sou

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or again:
devenus sans intérêt puisque sans le sou

LauretteT
Local time: 12:29
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Xavier84: "as" va avec "consider"
4 mins
  -> merci Xavier!

agree  Colin Rowe: Ou bien "dépourvu de tout intérêt", p.ex.: "De plus il est pauvre, donc dépourvu de tout intérêt pour la mère d'Epinie." http://www.sfmag.net/article.php3?id_article=7080
5 mins
  -> thanks Colin

agree  Sean Sheahan: though it's even 'worse'... in English
16 mins
  -> merci Sean

agree  SJLD: oui, sans argent, ils ne représentent plus aucun intérêt pour le casino, c'est clair!
30 mins
  -> thanks !

agree  mimi 254
40 mins
  -> Merci Mimi

agree  FX Fraipont
1 hr
  -> merci!

agree  NancyLynn
2 hrs
  -> thanks Nancy

agree  Christian Fournier
2 hrs
  -> Merci Christian!
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
(les considérant) on ne peut plus inutiles


Explanation:
par exemple

polyglot45
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agree  Françoise Vogel
1 hr

agree  Leslie Desgranges
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
bons à rien


Explanation:
Juste une autre variante d'"inutiles"

Sébastien GUITTENY
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Local time: 12:29
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