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07:03 Jun 17, 2011
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Social Sciences - Government / Politics
English term or phrase: proto-professional middle classes
All of these conditions meant that the new social movements had enormous potential for widening the base of discussion that made up national public opinion and that they were not easy to incorporate to the sectorial apparatus of the official party and the state.

The combination of these variegated pressures, including those from professional and *proto-professional middle classes* and nonincorporated unions and peasant communities, forced the state to develop new strategies of encompassment and inclusion, as well as to expand forms of access to national public opinion.

Was bedeutet "proto-professional"? Eine Mittelschicht, die erstmals berufstätig ist und die Zurechnung zur Mittelschicht nicht bloß "ererbt"? Bin dankbar für Anregungen!
Sandra Pontow
Local time: 03:19


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3 +1aufsteigendmill
3 -1quasi-freiberufliche MittelklassenDERDOKTOR
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liz askew

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55 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
quasi-freiberufliche Mittelklassen


Explanation:
jetzt frag' mich aber bitte nicht, was das GENAU sein soll. Soziologie und Politologie sind Blablapseudowissenschaften, die davon leben, daß niemand es versteht. Des Kaisers neue Kleider, quasi.

DERDOKTOR
Local time: 03:19
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PRO pts in category: 14

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neutral  xxxHanshan: Sie mögen über Soziologie und Politologie so denken, aber weshalb antworten Sie, wenn Sie es sowieso nicht verstehen? Texte, die man nicht versteht, sollte man (zumindest war das einmal so) konsequent ablehnen.
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  -> nach Deiner eigenen Definition stommt meine answer.

disagree  mill: Mit freiberuflich hat das gar nichts zu tun.
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
aufsteigend


Explanation:
Mir scheint es, als ob diese Klasse im Aufsteigen begriffen ist, noch nicht ganz der Mittelschicht zugerechnet werden kann, aber auf dem Weg dorthin ist.

mill
Local time: 03:19
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disagree  DERDOKTOR: selbst FALLS man proto SO interpretierte, bezieht es sich nicht auf middle-classes.
10 mins
  -> im Ausgangstext steht "professional middle classes"

agree  rikka: it goes with Sandra's guess
2 days4 hrs
  -> thanks

agree  BrigitteHilgner: "proto" im Sinne von Vorstufe - allerdings verstehe ich immer noch nicht, was das "professional" in diesem Zusammenhang soll.
3 days3 hrs
  -> danke
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Other examples with “proto-“

ENGL 428Y - Fall 2011 | English Department, University of Maryland
The hope is that these readings will show students how much Austen and Bryon can be considered both proto-anthropologists and proto-ideological critics; ...
www.english.umd.edu/courses/fall-2011/engl428y-0101 - Cached

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:xap1S1l...

proto- or prot-
pref.
1. First in time; earliest: protolithic.
2. First formed; primitive; original: protohuman.
3. Proto- Being a form of a language that is the ancestor of a language or group of related languages: Proto-Germanic.
4. Having the least amount of a specified element or radical: protoporphyrin


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Note added at 1 hr (2011-06-17 08:08:11 GMT)
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well,
they seem to use "proto" as a prefix in German:

http://www.dict.cc/englisch-deutsch/proto-.html

liz askew
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FieldOther => Social Sciences


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