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21:11 Jun 9, 2011
English to German translations [PRO] Art/Literary - Idioms / Maxims / Sayings
English term or phrase:seen the elephant
it seems to be an old american phrase
seen the elephant - meaning that one is worldly and has much life experience.
You may use it ironically : sure, he has seen the elephant
I'm looking for a appropriate german phrase.
There is not much spoken or written contex, because it's in a film. The woman who says "Seen the elephant"t, does not like the man it refers to. In her eyes he is just a poser. So far I think "hat die Welt gesehen" would be correct, if it is meant ironically.
There is no 1:1 phrase in German which really conveys the elephant meaning. So more context would perhaps be helpful if your guy is someone, dem nichts Menschliches (mehr) fremd ist
viele Links unterstützen Johannas Hinweis, womit das Spektrum von 'weltgewandt' bis ' der Welt überdrüssig' reicht, je nachdem, wie erfolgreich derjenige war, der die Erfahrung gemacht (den 'Elephanten gesehen') hat...Ohne Kontext keine Chance für Genauigkeit.
... many possibilities to say this in German -- with no further context, it's near impossible to select the right one. So pls. go ahead and tell us more about your text.
hat die sieben Weltmeere bereist / hat die Welt gesehen
Explanation: mehr im Sinne von "ist schon überall gewesen", "hat schon alles erlebt", und somit einen grossen Erfahrungsschatz. Knüpft hier auch gut an die exotische Vorlage an (Elefant), passt allerdings nicht auf eine "generell weise" Person...
Explanation: Die beiden Vorschläge könnten - je nach Kontext - ebenfalls passen. Jemand, der viel mitgemacht hat, kennt die Welt. Wobei der Ausdruck "etwas durchmachen" negative Konnotationen hat: Jemand, der viel durchgemacht hat, hat auch viele negative Erfahrungen gesammelt.
Andrea Kret Local time: 10:22 Specializes in field Native speaker of: German, Polish
Reference information: "I have seen the elephant" is an expression denoting world-weary experience. It is an Americanism dating to the early 19th century. The elephant is metaphorical, standing it for the exotic and strange things one sees when one has experience and has seen the world.
Many associate the phrase with the Civil War. While it was certainly in use during the war and undoubtedly crops up in letters and diaries from that period, the phrase is older. From Augustus B. Longstreet’s Georgia Scenes, in a passage written in 1835:
That’s sufficient, as Tom Haynes said when he saw the elephant.1
And there is G.W. Kendall’s Narrative of the Texan Santa Fé Expedition from 1844: There is a cant expression, “I’ve seen the elephant” in very common use in Texas. […] The meaning of the expression I will explain. When a man is disappointed in any thing he undertakes, when he has seen enough, when he gets sick and tired of any job he may have set himself about, he has “seen the elephant.”2
This is an American version of the older British expression to see the lions. The British phrase, meaning the same thing or, in later use, meaning to see something of celebrity or note, is a reference to lions that were kept in the Tower of London and were an early tourist attraction. Those who came to London from the country were often taken to see the lions in the Tower. From Robert Greene’s 1590 Greenes Neuer Too Late: Francesco was no other but a meere nouice, and that so newly, that to vse the olde prouerbe, he had scarce seene the Lions.3
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1Augustus Baldwin Longstreet, Georgia Scenes (New York: Harper & Brothers, 1897), 3.
2G.W. Kendall, A Narrative of the Texan Santa Fé Expedition (London: Sherwood, Gilbert, and Piper, 1847), 74-75.
3Oxford English Dictionary, lion, n., 2nd Edition, 1989, Oxford University Press, accessed 12 Jan 2009 <http://dictionary.oed.com/cgi/entry/50133810>. http://www.wordorigins.org/index.php/site/comments/elephant_...