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O, devotees! = रे भक्तों or रे भक्तो (?)

Hindi translation: रे भक्तो! / हे भक्तो!


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English term or phrase:O, devotees!
Hindi translation:रे भक्तो! / हे भक्तो!
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10:17 Sep 23, 2008
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Cinema, Film, TV, Drama / जय संतोषी माँ
English term or phrase: O, devotees! = रे भक्तों or रे भक्तो (?)
Hi,

This occurs in the जय संतोषी माँ song.

My question – if a plural noun is vocative (i.e. someone is being addressed), doesn't it lose the nasal element?

In other words,
not आओ रे भक्तों यह माता है सबकी हमजोली
but आओ रे भक्तो यह माता है सबकी हमजोली

रे, if I understand rightly, is like Eng. “o”, i.e. it shows someone is being addressed, so after रे, भक्तों becomes भक्तो...

I seem to remember reading something to this effect in McGregor's Hindi course, but do not have the book with me.

I know this is a seeming small difference, but am I right, please?

Best wishes

Simon
SeiTT
United Kingdom
Local time: 05:05
रे भक्तो
Explanation:
Yes, you are right. If a plural noun is vocative (i.e. someone is being addressed), it losse the nasal element and, therefore,
not आओ रे भक्तों यह माता है सबकी हमजोली
but आओ रे भक्तो यह माता है सबकी हमजोली is correct.

While we address to a group of people or gathering, we say,

देवियो और सज्जनो, भाइयो और बहनो, बंधुओ, मित्रो, दोस्तो, भक्तो etc.

I am glad to know that you know this seemingly small difference, and you are perfectly right.
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cmrawal
Local time: 10:35
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thank you so much for such a good clarification of what is obviously a complex matter.
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5 +5रे भक्तो
cmrawal
5हे भक्तों or हे भक्तजनोंsuraj jaiswal
3भक्तो stands for devotees and भक्तों for devotees'
Ramesh Bhatt


  

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o, devotees! = रे भक्तों or रे भक्तो (?)
भक्तो stands for devotees and भक्तों for devotees'


Explanation:
The difference in the two is: devotee means भक्त
devotee's means भक्त का
In plural form you have O' devotees रे भक्तो, रे श्रदालुजनो
and devotees' (prayers) भक्तों की (प्रार्थना)

Ramesh Bhatt
Nepal
Local time: 10:50
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +5
o, devotees! = रे भक्तों or रे भक्तो (?)
रे भक्तो


Explanation:
Yes, you are right. If a plural noun is vocative (i.e. someone is being addressed), it losse the nasal element and, therefore,
not आओ रे भक्तों यह माता है सबकी हमजोली
but आओ रे भक्तो यह माता है सबकी हमजोली is correct.

While we address to a group of people or gathering, we say,

देवियो और सज्जनो, भाइयो और बहनो, बंधुओ, मित्रो, दोस्तो, भक्तो etc.

I am glad to know that you know this seemingly small difference, and you are perfectly right.


cmrawal
Local time: 10:35
Native speaker of: Native in HindiHindi
Grading comment
thank you so much for such a good clarification of what is obviously a complex matter.

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agree  Lalit Sati
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o, devotees! = रे भक्तों or रे भक्तो (?)
हे भक्तों or हे भक्तजनों


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