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English term or phrase:	Doesn’t do
Hungarian translation:	nem illik

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11:24 Nov 24, 2010

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English term or phrase: Doesn’t do

Doesn’t do to keep a bride waiting.

Egy parbeszedben hangzik el.

Zsuzsa Bedo KudoZ activity Questions: 84 (2 open) (4 without valid answers) Answers: 15 Hungary
Local time: 05:37

nem illik

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János Untener
Hungary
Local time: 04:37

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5 +6

nem illik

János Untener

5 +4

nem ildomos / nem tanácsos / nem bölcs dolog

Ildiko Santana

3 +1

nem okos dolog

József Lázár

melléfogás (vmit tenni)

Peter Boskovitz

Summary of reference entries provided

ildom(os)

Klára Kalamár

Discussion entries: 4

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4 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +6

doesn’t do

nem illik

Explanation:
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János Untener
Hungary
Local time: 04:37
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Hungarian
PRO pts in category: 16

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3 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

doesn’t do nem okos dolog

Explanation:
http://szotar.sztaki.hu/dict_search.php?L=ENG:HUN:EngHunDict...

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Note added at 19 perc (2010-11-24 11:44:00 GMT)
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itt is így szerepel.
http://www.eudict.com/?lang=enghun&word=it doesn`t%20do%20to%20do%20sg
és itt is:
http://angolmagyar.dicfor.com/hun/do it/both/any/0/1
és itt is:
http://mek.niif.hu/00000/00076/html/hun-eng/n.htm
és itt is:
http://www.englishforums.com/English/ItDoesntDoToLet/crkhq/p...
ettől persze lehet még hibás. :)

József Lázár
Local time: 04:37
Native speaker of:

Hungarian
PRO pts in category: 3

8 mins confidence:

doesn’t do melléfogás (vmit tenni)

Explanation:
It does not do to dwell on dreams and forget to live.
It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him.

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Note added at 34 mins (2010-11-24 11:58:29 GMT)
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Halál pontosan azt jeleni az eredeti, hogy „do” = (itt) „a célnak megfelelő, a tőle elvárható hatást kifejti egy (itt) cselekedet”. Ez elméletileg nem pontosan azt jelenti, hogy a cselekvő nem elég okos, mindössze annyit, hogy most ezzel melléfogott.

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Note added at 36 mins (2010-11-24 12:01:06 GMT)
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„Rosszul fog elsülni (sülhet el), ha ...” ez a pontos kifejezés.

Peter Boskovitz
Hungary
Local time: 04:37
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Native speaker of:

Hungarian
PRO pts in category: 21

5 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +4

doesn’t do nem ildomos / nem tanácsos / nem bölcs dolog

Explanation:
'It doesn't do' or 'It won't do' (somewhat old-fashioned) phrases mean that it isn't acceptable or isn't advisable. In other words, not a good strategy, not a good policy. Magyarul szerintem a 'nem tanácsos' vagy 'nem ildomos', esetleg 'nem bölcs dolog' illik ide leginkább. Az "ildomos" régi szavunk csak hangzásban emlékeztet az "illik" szóra, de jelentése okos, ügyes (ellentéte a ma már alig használt "ildomtalan"). "Nem ildomos megvárakoztatni a menyasszonyt".
Példák a használatra:
"When drawing Mr Blair and Mr Obama I found I was pulling my punches because I preferred to attack their opponents. They’d look good by comparison – and it doesn’t do to make any politician look good." (cartoonist)
"It doesn't do to dwell on dreams and forget to live." (JK Rowling)
"It doesn't do to let the servants be too familiar with you."
"In a relationship, it doesn't do to always carry a hint of distrust about your partner."
"It doesn't do to simply let all those users submit their messages to your MTA systems without any authentication."
"It doesn't do to have a horse play a game when you're trying to be serious."

Ildiko Santana
United States
Local time: 19:37
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Hungarian,

English
PRO pts in category: 20

Reference comments

6 hrs

Reference: ildom(os)

Reference information:
Eredetileg okost, ésszerűt jelentett; később, bizonyára az illedelmes hatására, ennek a jelentését vette fel: illendő, tisztességes, a helyzethez vagy alkalomhoz illő. (Nem ildomos a nőket korukról kérdezni.)
Az ildom nyelvújításkori elvonás; eredetileg az is őrizte az 'ésszerűség' jelentést:
"Ha célra küzdvén, nagy, nemes, dicsőre,
Így összehat kezünk, szívünk, agyunk,
Vezérszó: ildom, a zászlón előre!"
(Arany: Széchenyi emlékezete)
http://www.netlexikon.hu/yrk/Regryzrmb/1537

ildom: magyar nyelvújítási szó a német Klugheit-re, Széchenyi kedvelte.
Klugheit (főnév) - okosság (http://hu.wiktionary.org/wiki/Klugheit)

Klára Kalamár
Romania
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Hungarian,

Romanian

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