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English term or phrase:to (in contesto)
Italian translation:to control gene ratio
Entered by:liz askew
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Medical - Genetics
English term or phrase: to (in contesto)
Contesto:parametro di risposta molecolare alla terapia.

BCR-ABL to control gene ratio according to international scale

Avrei gentilmente bisogno di un parere di qualcuno esperto, con una certa urgenza.
Sbaglio io...oppure quel "to" è errato, fuori luogo, in più, e dovrebbe essere eliso?

Per me la frase corretta è:
BCR-ABL control gene ratio according to international scale

Grazie.



texjax DDS PhD
United States
Clarification request(s) and response
Mirra_: 4:18pm Feb 24, 2008: ma com'è la frase completa? Anche perché, togliendo il 'to' non è che -così come riporti la frase- aquisti molto più senso :)
Mirra_: 4:20pm Feb 24, 2008: ahhhhhhhhhh aCCCCCCCCCquisti :) (un po' di problemi coi tasti)
texjax DDS PhD: 4:22pm Feb 24, 2008: Ciao Mirra, la frase completa è quella. Si tratta di una tabella, quindi è tutto sintetico.
Mirra_: 5:09pm Feb 24, 2008: ah Ok allora do il mio agree in ritardo :)
texjax DDS PhD: 5:13pm Feb 24, 2008: MIrra, molte grazie anche a te!!! Buona serata (è sera da voi, giusto?) Ciao!

to control gene ratio
Explanation:
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:OKi7zGszJGkJ:www.sussex...


Molecular response
Complete – transcript non quantifiable and non detectable.
Major – BCR/ABL to control gene ratio ≤0.10 according to the international
scale.


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[PDF]
CHRONIC MYELOID LEUKAEMIA
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Cytogenetic. response. Molecular response. (BCR-ABL to control. gene ratio according to. the international scale). Definitions. Complete: Platelet count < ...
www.gmccn.nhs.uk/hp/portal_repository/files/CML-GMCCN-final... - Similar pages

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You need to refer to a native English site, as I have done, to ensure the correct phraseology.

The ones I found without the "to" were not native English sites.

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http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:uNP5Zi_uyAEJ:www.molecu...


disease progression for at least 5 years.1

MMR is defined as greater than or equal to a 3-log reduction in the ratio of BCR-ABL to control gene from a standardized median baseline value.2


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ABL Kinase Inhibitor Therapy for CML: Baseline Assessments and ...
The amount of BCR-ABL transcript in the peripheral blood, measured as a ratio of BCR-ABL to a control gene, provides an estimate of the number of terminally ...
asheducationbook.hematologylibrary.org/cgi/content/full/2006/1/211 - Similar pages

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Hi

This isn't my field but I thought that

BCR-ABL = fusion gene?

rather than control gene

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Note added at 36 mins (2008-02-24 16:38:45 GMT)
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Yes, cos look:

{beta}-Glucuronidase Is an Optimal Normalization Control Gene for ...
BCR-ABL was first normalized to each control gene, as indicated in the legend box .... van Dongen JJ: Differential stability of control gene and fusion gene ...
jmd.amjpathol.org/cgi/content/full/8/3/385 - Similar pages
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liz askew
United Kingdom
Note from asker to answerer
Thanks a million!

Chiudo la domanda in anticipo, mi dispiacerebbe far perdere del tempo prezioso ad altri, visto che orami abbiamo chiarito.
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to control gene ratio

Explanation:
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:OKi7zGszJGkJ:www.sussex...


Molecular response
Complete – transcript non quantifiable and non detectable.
Major – BCR/ABL to control gene ratio ≤0.10 according to the international
scale.


--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 13 mins (2008-02-24 16:15:40 GMT)
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[PDF]
CHRONIC MYELOID LEUKAEMIA
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Cytogenetic. response. Molecular response. (BCR-ABL to control. gene ratio according to. the international scale). Definitions. Complete: Platelet count < ...
www.gmccn.nhs.uk/hp/portal_repository/files/CML-GMCCN-final... - Similar pages

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Note added at 21 mins (2008-02-24 16:24:30 GMT)
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You need to refer to a native English site, as I have done, to ensure the correct phraseology.

The ones I found without the "to" were not native English sites.

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Note added at 27 mins (2008-02-24 16:29:55 GMT)
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http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:uNP5Zi_uyAEJ:www.molecu...


disease progression for at least 5 years.1

MMR is defined as greater than or equal to a 3-log reduction in the ratio of BCR-ABL to control gene from a standardized median baseline value.2


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Note added at 31 mins (2008-02-24 16:33:47 GMT)
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ABL Kinase Inhibitor Therapy for CML: Baseline Assessments and ...
The amount of BCR-ABL transcript in the peripheral blood, measured as a ratio of BCR-ABL to a control gene, provides an estimate of the number of terminally ...
asheducationbook.hematologylibrary.org/cgi/content/full/2006/1/211 - Similar pages

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Note added at 34 mins (2008-02-24 16:36:52 GMT)
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Hi

This isn't my field but I thought that

BCR-ABL = fusion gene?

rather than control gene

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Note added at 36 mins (2008-02-24 16:38:45 GMT)
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Yes, cos look:

{beta}-Glucuronidase Is an Optimal Normalization Control Gene for ...
BCR-ABL was first normalized to each control gene, as indicated in the legend box .... van Dongen JJ: Differential stability of control gene and fusion gene ...
jmd.amjpathol.org/cgi/content/full/8/3/385 - Similar pages

liz askew
United Kingdom
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PRO pts in category: 4
Note from asker to answerer
Thanks a million!

Chiudo la domanda in anticipo, mi dispiacerebbe far perdere del tempo prezioso ad altri, visto che orami abbiamo chiarito.
Notes to answerer
Asker: Ciao Liz, my doubt arise form the consideration that they ARE control genes...I hope I'm clear, so "to control" it doesn't make much sense to me. I also found other typos/mistakes in the text, and now I'm stuck on this one..

Asker: The piece of chromosome 9 contains the gene c-ABL; the piece of chromosome 22 contains the gene BCR. Hence, the gene that is formed as a result is called the BCR-ABL gene. The new gene is responsible for producing a mutated protein which in turn converts the marrow stem cells from normal to leukemic. The resulting hybrid gene BCR-ABL codes for a fusion protein with tyrosine kinase activity, which activates signal transduction pathways, leading to uncontrolled cell growth http://www.bio.davidson.edu/courses/genomics/2001/oldham/CML.html

Asker: Thanks! Maybe "as a ratio of BCR-ABL to A control gene" as in your last reference, is the answer...

Asker: BCR-ABL viene chiamato gene di controllo, ovvero un gene che con la sua espressione controlla determinate reazioni.

Asker: Grazie MILLE! Mi hai davvero aiutato a chiarire il dubbio! http://www.ricercaitaliana.it/prin/unita_op_en-2005063732_004.htm

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