Betting and Gaming

Japanese translation: (お金、などを)賭ける and ギャンブル・賭博する

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English term or phrase:Betting and Gaming
Japanese translation:(お金、などを)賭ける and ギャンブル・賭博する
Entered by: Joe L

06:15 Nov 3, 2006
English to Japanese translations [PRO]
Games / Video Games / Gaming / Casino
English term or phrase: Betting and Gaming
2 terms - sorry! - but want them distinguished in Japanese. English definition below.
Gaming - playing of a game of chance for winnings in money or money's worth.
Betting - staking of money or other value on the event of a doubtful issue.
NZTIS Translations
Local time: 02:28
(お金、などを)賭ける and ギャンブル・賭博する
Explanation:
By the way, "gaming" is a euphemism the gambling
industry came up with only in the last 15 years or so to
din the negative connotations associated with "gambling".
I live in Vegas. This gets mentioned in discussions about the
industry, all the time.

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Note added at 55 mins (2006-11-03 07:10:07 GMT)
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Meant "dim", not "din".


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Note added at 18 hrs (2006-11-04 00:35:39 GMT)
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Hi again. I probably should provide a little more detail,
so here goes. 賭博 is, of course, gambling (gaming, etc.),
although the loan words ギャンブル and ギャンブルする are also
acceptable in Japanese.

For "Betting - staking of money or other value on the
event of a doubtful issue", your safest bet (pun intended!),
would be the straightforward 賭ける(お金、などを).
This term can be used in a variety of ways, such as
in taking a business risk, a risky play in sports, and
of course, wagering money in the form of a good, old
fashioned "bet".

Nothing ventured, nothing gained!
Best, Joe.




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Note added at 2 days20 hrs (2006-11-06 02:15:41 GMT)
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ゲーミング for "gaming" is another option.
http://www2.alc.co.jp/ejr/index.php?word_in=�Q�[�~���O&word_...
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Joe L
United States
Local time: 07:28
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thanks
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2(お金、などを)賭ける and ギャンブル・賭博する
Joe L
5 -1博打(bakuchi) vs 賭博 (tobaku)
humbird


  

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11 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -1
betting and gaming
博打(bakuchi) vs 賭博 (tobaku)


Explanation:
Both without doubt meant for gambling of any form. Both stakes money or valuables though as long as gambling is legal the expression "a doubtful issue" should be ruled out as it is obvious gambling such as horse-racing, boat-racing, as well as pachinko (in Japan) are fairly up and above board deals.

Now in my answer the former is less formal than the latter, but in its strict sense both are hard to differentiate from each other.

The definition you have cited sounds like the one provided by the government (of the US) and fairly new.
Though that may not be the case, let me discuss the matter on this line of though a bit further.
I believe this was coined out when Uncle Sam faced up to having to deal with Indian (Native American) Casino.
Because such (Indian Casino) issue does not exist in Japan (or anywhere else), it could be pretty difficult to transfer this subtlety into Japanese.
Well, again in legal gambling the word "bakuchi" is less used. That I can assure you.

HTH

humbird
Native speaker of: Native in JapaneseJapanese, Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Joe L: Mention of "a doubtful issue" is entirely correct -it means "an event whose outcome is in doubt". Also, you don't address the broader sense of the word "betting", in the sense posed by the asker. Confidence level of "5"?
6 hrs
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52 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
betting and gaming
(お金、などを)賭ける and ギャンブル・賭博する


Explanation:
By the way, "gaming" is a euphemism the gambling
industry came up with only in the last 15 years or so to
din the negative connotations associated with "gambling".
I live in Vegas. This gets mentioned in discussions about the
industry, all the time.

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Note added at 55 mins (2006-11-03 07:10:07 GMT)
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Meant "dim", not "din".


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Note added at 18 hrs (2006-11-04 00:35:39 GMT)
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Hi again. I probably should provide a little more detail,
so here goes. 賭博 is, of course, gambling (gaming, etc.),
although the loan words ギャンブル and ギャンブルする are also
acceptable in Japanese.

For "Betting - staking of money or other value on the
event of a doubtful issue", your safest bet (pun intended!),
would be the straightforward 賭ける(お金、などを).
This term can be used in a variety of ways, such as
in taking a business risk, a risky play in sports, and
of course, wagering money in the form of a good, old
fashioned "bet".

Nothing ventured, nothing gained!
Best, Joe.




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Note added at 2 days20 hrs (2006-11-06 02:15:41 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

ゲーミング for "gaming" is another option.
http://www2.alc.co.jp/ejr/index.php?word_in=�Q�[�~���O&word_...


Joe L
United States
Local time: 07:28
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
thanks

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Can Altinbay
8 hrs
  -> Thank you, sir.

agree  sigmalanguage: 賭け and ギャンブル if the asker wants nouns. Note that 賭博 is a very negative word. You wouldn't want to use it in an ad for your pachinko parlor ;-).
2 days 18 hrs
  -> Thanks! I see that the euphemism "gaming" has become a loanword too, in Japanese (ゲーミング).
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