English: Childcare element of the Working Tax CreditPolish translation: świadczenie dla osób pracujących (przeznaczone dla osób opłacających opiekę nad dziećmi) 
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| GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW) | | English term or phrase: | Childcare element of the Working Tax Credit | | Polish translation: | świadczenie dla osób pracujących (przeznaczone dla osób opłacających opiekę nad dziećmi) | | Entered by: | inmb |
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Social Sciences - Law: Taxation & Customs | | English term or phrase: Childcare element of the Working Tax Credit | | What's the exact polish translation of this term? It's not ulga podatkowa because it's payable directly not as a refund. Wsparcie dochodu sounds strange. Any help very much appreciated! Ta! |
| | Clarification request(s) and responsePolangmar: 3:29pm Aug 27, 2007: Kto to płaci?
inmb: 3:31pm Aug 27, 2007: I w jakiej formie? Czy pracodawca przelewa to na rzecz pracownika (który ma dzieci) zamiast do urzędu?
inmb: 3:35pm Aug 27, 2007: A poza tym ulga to niekoniecznie zwrot podatku - to również (i częściej) brak konieczności jego zapłacenia).
Kasia E. Slobodzian: 3:37pm Aug 27, 2007: child care element - child care element is one of the options available for tax credits for those whose children are in receipt of paid (nursery) education. Zasiłek is a brilliant starting point, though! Many thanks!!!
Kasia E. Slobodzian: 3:39pm Aug 27, 2007: yes, i do agree with that. Ulga means a discount as well but in this case i wanted the term for tax credit and zasilek is just grand. Thanks!
Kasia E. Slobodzian: 3:44pm Aug 27, 2007: i'm not too sure. Will need to check it first. I think it's the government
inmb: 3:46pm Aug 27, 2007: Tu znajdziesz całą dyskusję
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/1199691
Wbrew nazwie to rzeczywiście wygląda na zasiłek, choć przyznam, że miałbym duże opory przy zastosowaniu tego terminu. Poza tym brytyjskie strony, które wprowadzają terminologię w tym zakresie
inmb: 3:47pm Aug 27, 2007: są przetłumaczone tak jak są przetłumaczone, np "benefits" to "benefity". Brrr.
Kasia E. Slobodzian: 3:47pm Aug 27, 2007: Working Tax Credit is paid to support people in work. The scheme is administered by HM Revenue & Customs. You do not have to pay national insurance contributions to qualify.
Kasia E. Slobodzian: 3:49pm Aug 27, 2007: you see, that's the problem. I'm really reluctant to use Polish-English terms of some polish semi-translators here. Brrr I need some professional advice and your help is very much appreciated! Ta!
Kasia E. Slobodzian: 3:51pm Aug 27, 2007: and those are the elements of the WTC:
Working Tax Credit is made up of the following:
Basic element - paid to any working person who meets the conditions.
Lone parent element - for lone parents.
Couples element - for couples.
30 hour element - for people who work at least 30 hours a week. Couples with at least one child can claim the 30 hour element if they work at least 30 hours a week between them.
Disability element - for working people with a disability.
Severe disability element - for people with a severe disability.
50 plus element - for people aged 50 or over who have just returned to work after a period on benefit.
Child care element - for working families who spend money on approved child care for qualifying children.
Kasia E. Slobodzian: 3:53pm Aug 27, 2007: how about: zasiłek dla osób pracujących na rzecz opieki przedszkolnej?
inmb: 3:53pm Aug 27, 2007: są przetłumaczone tak jak są przetłumaczone, np "benefits" to "benefity". Brrr.
iseult: 3:59pm Aug 27, 2007: Uwazam, ze ulga podatkowa funkcjonuje w naszej polskiej swiadomosci, i jest tlumaczone przez slownik jezyka polskiego jako "obnizenie sumy, ktora trzeba za cos zaplacic", natomiast zasilek to pomoc finansowa, ktora otrzymujemy i tak jest w przypadku Tax C
Kasia E. Slobodzian: 4:00pm Aug 27, 2007: and i absolutely agree with that! how about świadczenie as suggested below?
Kasia E. Slobodzian: 5:08pm Aug 27, 2007: ->inmb
very good point! Thank you. Will take it into consideration. Ta very much!
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| | świadczenie dla osób pracujących (dla osób opłacających opiekę nad dziećmi) | Explanation:
According to your description.
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Note added at 38 mins (2007-08-27 16:04:41 GMT)
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świadczenie - just to avoid "ulga" and "benefit" (but it is very close to "benefit")
dla osób pracujących - that's obvious
I ignore "element", because it is still the category of payment and only its type is different
dla osób opłacających opiekę nad dziećmi - you cannot use "dla osób pracujących na rzecz opieki przedszkolnej" because they are working (anywhere) and then pay for the childcare
It would be useful to add "professional", hence
świadczenie dla osób pracujących (dla osób opłacających <profesjonalną> opiekę nad dziećmi)
HTH
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Note added at 1 hr (2007-08-27 16:46:54 GMT)
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and one more version:
świadczenie dla osób pracujących (przeznaczone dla osób opłacających profesjonalną opiekę nad dziećmi)
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Note added at 4 hrs (2007-08-27 20:11:35 GMT)
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OK, but
ŚWIADCZENIE (not świadEczenie)
and I am not sure about "przedszkolną" as in youre refernces <Child care element - for working families who spend money on approved child care for qualifying children> there was no remark about preschool
But if you know it is only for preschool age, than the entire phrase should be OK
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Note added at 4 hrs (2007-08-27 20:26:07 GMT)
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You know your context! Good luck! |
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inmb
Poland
| Note from asker to answererThank you very much for your assistance. To be honest, I have come across some horrible semi-Polish translations of english texts. Well... some people think that being married to an english person makes you a good polish translator;-) professionalism and knowlege of your own language are things you cant just get like that (i've just snapped my fingers;-). Wish we had more translators here like yourself. Ta very much!
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| childcare element of the working tax credit zasiłek dla osob pracujacych
Explanation:
First of all what is Working Tax Credit?
I am not sure what exactly you asking for whether child care part or the whole thing?
Working Tax credit - sounds good to me as Zasiłek dla osób pracujących.
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Note added at 9 mins (2007-08-27 15:35:36 GMT)
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Tax Credit tlumacze jako Zasilek dla podatnikow, a Child tax Credit jako Zasilek rodzinny dla podatnikow
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Note added at 11 mins (2007-08-27 15:37:08 GMT)
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Uwazam, ze ulga moze spowodowac wiele niejasnosci!!!
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Note added at 41 mins (2007-08-27 16:07:22 GMT)
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Nadal mam watpliwosci co do kontekstu Child care, poniewaz, sa 2 rodzaje Tax Credit, jeden to Working Tax Credit drugi Child Tax Credit, czy chodzi tu tylko o elementy, ktore biora pod uwage ci ktorzy podejmuja decyzje?
| iseult
United States
Native speaker of:  Polish
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Asker: there is one tax credit which has the elements mentioned above. Child credit is only a subcategory. Thanks!
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| childcare element of the working tax credit świadczenie dla osób pracujących (dla osób opłacających opiekę nad dziećmi)
Explanation:
According to your description.
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Note added at 38 mins (2007-08-27 16:04:41 GMT)
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świadczenie - just to avoid "ulga" and "benefit" (but it is very close to "benefit")
dla osób pracujących - that's obvious
I ignore "element", because it is still the category of payment and only its type is different
dla osób opłacających opiekę nad dziećmi - you cannot use "dla osób pracujących na rzecz opieki przedszkolnej" because they are working (anywhere) and then pay for the childcare
It would be useful to add "professional", hence
świadczenie dla osób pracujących (dla osób opłacających <profesjonalną> opiekę nad dziećmi)
HTH
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Note added at 1 hr (2007-08-27 16:46:54 GMT)
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and one more version:
świadczenie dla osób pracujących (przeznaczone dla osób opłacających profesjonalną opiekę nad dziećmi)
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Note added at 4 hrs (2007-08-27 20:11:35 GMT)
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OK, but
ŚWIADCZENIE (not świadEczenie)
and I am not sure about "przedszkolną" as in youre refernces <Child care element - for working families who spend money on approved child care for qualifying children> there was no remark about preschool
But if you know it is only for preschool age, than the entire phrase should be OK
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Note added at 4 hrs (2007-08-27 20:26:07 GMT)
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You know your context! Good luck!
| inmb
Poland
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:  Polish
PRO pts in category: 32
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| Note from asker to answerer| Thank you very much for your assistance. To be honest, I have come across some horrible semi-Polish translations of english texts. Well... some people think that being married to an english person makes you a good polish translator;-) professionalism and knowlege of your own language are things you cant just get like that (i've just snapped my fingers;-). Wish we had more translators here like yourself. Ta very much! |
| Notes to answerer
Asker: I think it's a good one. Following your lead, how about: świadeczenie dla osob pracujacych opłacających opieke przedszkolna dzieci? hmm?
Asker: swiadecznie:-) yeah, just my stupid typo (not worst than yours, though;-) the text i'm translating is for the purposes of nursery education grant and i think we need to keep it in mind. Your help is very much appreciated!
Asker: oh not again the same typo!
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