salary vs. wage

Portuguese translation: salário vs. pagamento

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English term or phrase:	salary vs. wage
Portuguese translation:	salário vs. pagamento
Entered by:	SPG (X)

21:46 Mar 31, 2004

English to Portuguese translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Human Resources / different workers compensations

English term or phrase: salary vs. wage

Can anyone tell me the different words used in Brazil for this pair of terms?
TIA

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Local time: 21:07

salário vs. pagamento

Explanation:
My suggestion.

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wage - payment for labor or services to a worker, especially remuneration on an hourly, daily, or weekly basis or by the piece.
salary - fixed compensation for services, paid to a person on a regular basis.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition

salary- salário, remuneraço
wage- salário, ordenado, soldo, paga (calculado por hora, dia ou tarefa, geralmente, recebido por dia ou por semana)
Michaelis.

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Sormane Gomes
United States
Local time: 20:07

Grading comment

Tnx!
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Summary of answers provided

5 +4

salário vs. pagamento

Sormane Gomes

5 +2

ordenado / salário

António Ribeiro

salário/remuneração

Roberto Cavalcanti

salário, ordenado, soldo, paga, remuneração, etc.

rhandler

Answers

14 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

ordenado / salário

Explanation:
Em Pt-Pt:

salary = ordenado, vencimento, honorários, remunerações

Wage = salário, soldo, paga, recompensa

Basicamente o significado é identico para as duas palavras, ou seja, ordenado ou salário

António Ribeiro
Local time: 10:07
Native speaker of:

Portuguese
PRO pts in category: 25

19 mins confidence:

salário/remuneração

Explanation:
salário é a quantia em dinheiro que você ganha/mês
wage é a sua remuneração que inclui o salário e outros benefícios

Roberto Cavalcanti
Brazil
Local time: 21:07
Works in field
Native speaker of: Portuguese
PRO pts in category: 55

17 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +4

salário vs. pagamento

Sormane Gomes
United States
Local time: 20:07
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English,

Portuguese
PRO pts in category: 20

Grading comment

Tnx!

54 mins confidence:

salário, ordenado, soldo, paga, remuneração, etc.

Explanation:
Primeiro, é preciso diferenciar as palavras no original. O Webster's, para "salary", diz que são sinônimas, veja:

salary (sale re, salre) pl. -ries
n.
a fixed payment at regular intervals for services, esp. when clerical or professional
SYN. wage

Entrando com "wage", entretanto, você encontrará:

n.
1 [often pl.] money paid to an employee for work done, and usually figured on an hourly, daily, or piecework basis
2 [usually pl.] what is given in return; recompense; requital: formerly the plural form was often construed as singular [The wages of sin is death]
3 [pl.] Econ. the share of the total product of industry that goes to labor, as distinguished from the share taken by capital

SYN.wage (also often wages) applies to money paid an employee at relatively short intervals, often daily, or weekly, esp. for manual or physical labor; salary applies to fixed compensation usually paid at longer intervals, often monthly or semimonthly, esp. to clerical or professional workers; stipend is a somewhat lofty substitute for salary, or it is applied to a pension or similar fixed payment; fee applies to the payment requested or given for professional services, as of a doctor, lawyer, artist, etc.; pay is a general term equivalent to any of the preceding, but it is specifically used of compensation to members of the armed forces; emolument is an elevated, now somewhat jocular, substitute for salary or wages

Etymology
[ME wagen < NormFr wagier (OFr gagier) < wage (OFr gage), a stake, pledge < Frank *wadi, akin to Goth wadi, a pledge: for IE base see wed]

(C)1995 Zane Publishing, Inc. (C)1994, 1991, 1988 Simon & Schuster, Inc.

Como você vê, a diferença está em inglês:

wage(s)= dinheiro pago a um emprefgado em intervalos relativamente curtos, diáriamente ou semanalmente, como remuneração por trabalho manual ou físico.

salary = aplica-se à compensação geralmente paga a intervalos maiores, mensalmente ou quinzenalmente.

Assim, tem-se:

salary = salário
wage = salário (minimum wage=salário mínimo), remuneração (assim definida pelo Houaiss: (1)retribuição por serviço ou favor prestado; recompensa, prêmio; (2) gratificação, ger. em dinheiro, por trabalho realizado; salário, recompensa, gratificação), soldo (assim definido pelo Houaiss: pagamento a quem presta serviço de qualquer natureza; paga, remuneração, ordenado).

Webster's Electronic Dictionary
Dicion�rio Eletr�nico Houaiss da L�ngua Portuguesa, de Antonio Houaiss

rhandler
Local time: 21:07
Native speaker of: Portuguese
PRO pts in category: 163

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