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English: aphthartodocetae e phthartolatrae

Portuguese translation: incorrupticolae, corrupticolae







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English term or phrase:aphthartodocetae e phthartolatrae
Portuguese translation:incorrupticolae, corrupticolae
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Social Sciences - Philosophy
English term or phrase: aphthartodocetae e phthartolatrae
With respect to Jesus' susceptibility to suffering and death, the aphthartodocetae and the phthartolatrae took opposing positions.
VagnerB
Brazil
incorrupticolae, corrupticolae
Explanation:
I gather you are asking for the Portuguese equivalent. Not my field at all, but if I send some findings, these may help you in your quest:

Dictionary of Christian Biography and Literature to the End of the ...
The designation by which the Julianists were more generally known was Aphthartodocetae or Incorrupticolae (Jo. Damasc. de Haer. § 84). ...
www.ccel.org/ccel/wace/biodict.html?term=Julianus,%20bishop... - 24k - Cached - Similar pages

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1. anastasius I., made patriarch of Antioch a. d. 559 or 561, took a prominent part in the con-troveisy with the Aphthartodocetae, who thought that the body of Christ before the resurrection was incorruptible. He opposed the edict which Justi­nian issued in favour of this opinion, and was af­terwards banished by the younger Justin. (570.) In 593 he was restored to his bishopric at Antioch, and died in 599.

http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:fVyX6OoERWYJ:pedia.newsfi...



The triumph of Severus was, however, short. His possession of the patriarchate of Antioch did not survive his imperial patron. Anastasius was succeeded in 518 by Justin I, who embraced the beliefs of Chalcedon. The Monophysite prelates were everywhere replaced by orthodox successors, Severus being one of the first to fall. Irenaeus, the count of the East, was commissioned to arrest him but Severus departed before his approach, setting sail one night in September 518 for Alexandria (Liberat. Brev. l.c.; Theophanes 141; Evagr. H. E. iv. 4). Paul I was ordained in his place. Severus and his doctrines were anathematized in various councils, while at Alexandria he was gladly welcomed by the patriarch Timotheos III and his other fellow doctrinarists, being generally hailed as the champion of the orthodox faith against the corruptions of Nestorianism. His learning and persuasion established his authority as "os omnium doctorum," and the day of his entrance into Egypt was long celebrated as a Jacobite festival (Neale, u.s. p. 30). Alexandria soon became a refuge of Monophysites of every shade of opinion, becoming too numerous for the emperor to molest. But within this group fierce controversies sprang up on various subtle questions of Christology, one of which involved Severus and his fellow-exile Julian of Halicarnassus as to the corruptibility of Christ's human body before His resurrection. Julian and his followers were styled "Aphthartodocetae" and "Phantasiastae," Severus and his adherents "Phthartolatrae" or "Corrupticolae," and "Ktistolatrae." The controversy was a heated and protracted one and while no settlement was arrived at, the later Oriental Orthodox claim the victory for Severus (Renaudot, p. 129).

Dominus, newsletter for Catholic Sportingclub Saint Severius
They retorted by calling the Severians Phthartolotrae (Corrupticolae), or Ktistolatrae, ... The great work of Julian against Severus seems to be lost. ...
aveforum.tripod.com/catholicnews/id4.html - 52k - Cached - Similar pages


http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:7uQOGUGa9DEJ:www.mundodel...

= corrupticolae


Dictionary of Christian Biography and Literature to the End of the ...
The designation by which the Julianists were more generally known was Aphthartodocetae or Incorrupticolae (Jo. Damasc. de Haer. § 84). ...
www.ccel.org/ccel/wace/biodict.html?term=Julianus,%20bishop... - 24k - Cached - Similar pages


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Note added at 23 mins (2007-11-19 12:25:20 GMT)
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The English =

Aphthartodocetists

In your first example

Roman Emperors - DIR Theodora
Severus, whose theology Theodosius shared, now belonged to the moderate Monophysite party, outnumbered in Egypt by the Aphthartodocetists a.k.a. Julianists ...
www.roman-emperors.org/dora.htm - 62k - Cached - Similar pages
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Eutychianism

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Note added at 24 mins (2007-11-19 12:26:43 GMT)
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Hi,

I've found the Portuguese for your first query

Aftardocetas

http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:qVCkF7FSbQ0J:dut.proz.com...

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Note added at 34 mins (2007-11-19 12:36:51 GMT)
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Definição de AFTARDOCETAS
aftardocetas sm pl (gr áphthartos, não corrompido+doceta) Seita monofisista, que existia nos séculos VI-IX, para a qual o corpo de Cristo era incorruptível e imorta
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liz askew
United Kingdom
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Obrigado, Liz, sua pesquisa foi muito proveitosa.
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incorrupticolae, corrupticolae

Explanation:
I gather you are asking for the Portuguese equivalent. Not my field at all, but if I send some findings, these may help you in your quest:

Dictionary of Christian Biography and Literature to the End of the ...
The designation by which the Julianists were more generally known was Aphthartodocetae or Incorrupticolae (Jo. Damasc. de Haer. § 84). ...
www.ccel.org/ccel/wace/biodict.html?term=Julianus,%20bishop... - 24k - Cached - Similar pages

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Note added at 19 mins (2007-11-19 12:21:28 GMT)
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http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:--TVBaEYv8YJ:www.ancientl...


1. anastasius I., made patriarch of Antioch a. d. 559 or 561, took a prominent part in the con-troveisy with the Aphthartodocetae, who thought that the body of Christ before the resurrection was incorruptible. He opposed the edict which Justi­nian issued in favour of this opinion, and was af­terwards banished by the younger Justin. (570.) In 593 he was restored to his bishopric at Antioch, and died in 599.

http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:fVyX6OoERWYJ:pedia.newsfi...



The triumph of Severus was, however, short. His possession of the patriarchate of Antioch did not survive his imperial patron. Anastasius was succeeded in 518 by Justin I, who embraced the beliefs of Chalcedon. The Monophysite prelates were everywhere replaced by orthodox successors, Severus being one of the first to fall. Irenaeus, the count of the East, was commissioned to arrest him but Severus departed before his approach, setting sail one night in September 518 for Alexandria (Liberat. Brev. l.c.; Theophanes 141; Evagr. H. E. iv. 4). Paul I was ordained in his place. Severus and his doctrines were anathematized in various councils, while at Alexandria he was gladly welcomed by the patriarch Timotheos III and his other fellow doctrinarists, being generally hailed as the champion of the orthodox faith against the corruptions of Nestorianism. His learning and persuasion established his authority as "os omnium doctorum," and the day of his entrance into Egypt was long celebrated as a Jacobite festival (Neale, u.s. p. 30). Alexandria soon became a refuge of Monophysites of every shade of opinion, becoming too numerous for the emperor to molest. But within this group fierce controversies sprang up on various subtle questions of Christology, one of which involved Severus and his fellow-exile Julian of Halicarnassus as to the corruptibility of Christ's human body before His resurrection. Julian and his followers were styled "Aphthartodocetae" and "Phantasiastae," Severus and his adherents "Phthartolatrae" or "Corrupticolae," and "Ktistolatrae." The controversy was a heated and protracted one and while no settlement was arrived at, the later Oriental Orthodox claim the victory for Severus (Renaudot, p. 129).

Dominus, newsletter for Catholic Sportingclub Saint Severius
They retorted by calling the Severians Phthartolotrae (Corrupticolae), or Ktistolatrae, ... The great work of Julian against Severus seems to be lost. ...
aveforum.tripod.com/catholicnews/id4.html - 52k - Cached - Similar pages


http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:7uQOGUGa9DEJ:www.mundodel...

= corrupticolae


Dictionary of Christian Biography and Literature to the End of the ...
The designation by which the Julianists were more generally known was Aphthartodocetae or Incorrupticolae (Jo. Damasc. de Haer. § 84). ...
www.ccel.org/ccel/wace/biodict.html?term=Julianus,%20bishop... - 24k - Cached - Similar pages


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Note added at 23 mins (2007-11-19 12:25:20 GMT)
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The English =

Aphthartodocetists

In your first example

Roman Emperors - DIR Theodora
Severus, whose theology Theodosius shared, now belonged to the moderate Monophysite party, outnumbered in Egypt by the Aphthartodocetists a.k.a. Julianists ...
www.roman-emperors.org/dora.htm - 62k - Cached - Similar pages
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Eutychianism

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Note added at 24 mins (2007-11-19 12:26:43 GMT)
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Hi,

I've found the Portuguese for your first query

Aftardocetas

http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:qVCkF7FSbQ0J:dut.proz.com...

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Note added at 34 mins (2007-11-19 12:36:51 GMT)
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Definição de AFTARDOCETAS
aftardocetas sm pl (gr áphthartos, não corrompido+doceta) Seita monofisista, que existia nos séculos VI-IX, para a qual o corpo de Cristo era incorruptível e imorta

liz askew
United Kingdom
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Note from asker to answerer
Obrigado, Liz, sua pesquisa foi muito proveitosa.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree Olivia Monteiro: Agree
8 mins
  -> Obrigada!

agree Marlene Curtis: Excellent research work Liz!
24 mins
  -> Obrigada! I couldn't resist looking into such obscure words (to me at least =)

agree Humberto Ribas
3 hrs
  -> Obrigada, Humberto!
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