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Romanian translation: mesaje (e-mail) nesolicitate

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English term or phrase:	spam
Romanian translation:	mesaje (e-mail) nesolicitate
Entered by:	Dan Dascalescu

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12:13 Aug 4, 2003

English to Romanian translations [PRO]

English term or phrase: spam

unwanted e-mail messages

Misu KudoZ activity Questions: 940 (none open) (44 closed without grading) Answers: 143 Romania
Local time: 17:57

mesaje (e-mail) nesolicitate

Explanation:
Acum 2 luni a fost discutat pe KudoZ termenul "spammer" si s-a ajuns al concluzia acceptata in unanimitate ca inseamna "persoana care trimite mesaje nesolicitate" (v. link-ul)

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Raspunsul corect este \"mesaje nesolicitate\", nu neaparat e-mail.

De exemplu, exista spam si pe IRC: intrati pe Undernet, canalul #romuzica si veti primi imediat cateva mesaje spam care fac reclama (indirect) unui anumit site.

Nu toate spam-urile au scop comercial. \"Chain letters\" de genul \"daca trimiteti acest e-mail la 10 persoane veti avea noroc chior in termen de N zile\" sunt si ele o forma de spam.

\"Nedorit\" nu este adecvat, pentru ca, de exemplu, dupa abonarea la un mailing list, mesajele prea multe pot deveni nedorite, insa ele nu sunt nesolicitate, deoarece abonatul a specificat expres prin subscrierea la mailing list ca doreste sa le primeasca.

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\"A aparut un nou site de manele si muzica dance romaneasca dar si ceva house nou (Include DJ PerF_UZZI - RoMafia Manele Mix (1) [...]) Incearca http://65.61.153.217/page.php?x=979931\"

-- iata un exemplu de spam pe IRC, NECOMERCIAL! N-am reusit sa ma prind despre ce este vorba la site-ul respectiv, insa se pare ca un \"caracter\" (gangster etc.) cauta sa-si racoleze din Internet cat mai multi... \"thugs\". Beats me.

Selected response from:

Dan Dascalescu
United States
Local time: 07:57

Grading comment

thank you all. sorry for delayed grading
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

5 +2

mesaje (e-mail) nesolicitate

Dan Dascalescu

5 +2

mesaje promotionale nesolicitate

Elvira Stoianov

4 +2

corespondenta / posta (electronica) nedorita

Tehno

mesaje comerciale nesolicitate

Claudia Serban

Answers

3 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

mesaje promotionale nesolicitate

Explanation:
aceasta este traducerea, din cate stiu nu exista o traducere intr-un singur cuvant.

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eventual fara \"promotionale\", pentru a pastra ideea mai generala

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Am verificat in dictionarul meu de Internet si telecomunicatii, si acolo nu este tradus. Totusi, cred ca decizia de a traduce sau nu se poate lua doar avand in considerare publicul caruia i se adreseaza traducerea. Daca e un public general, sigur nu stie ce este spam.

Elvira Stoianov
Luxembourg
Local time: 16:57
Native speaker of:

Romanian,

Hungarian
PRO pts in pair: 888

58 mins confidence:

mesaje comerciale nesolicitate

Explanation:
Efectuarea de comunicări comerciale prin poşta electronică este interzisă, cu excepţia cazului în care destinatarul şi-a exprimat prealabil consimţământul expres pentru a primi asemenea comunicări... bl, bla, bla (Legea 365/2002 privind comertul electronic si normele metodologice de aplicare a acesteia)

www.mcti.ro/ - vezi ca se incarca greu ... cel putin la mine

Claudia Serban
Local time: 17:57
Native speaker of:

Romanian
PRO pts in pair: 44

12 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

corespondenta / posta (electronica) nedorita

Explanation:
unwanted = nedorit(a)
mail = posta, corespondenta
E mai general si cuprinde atat corespondenta electronica prin e-mail cat si posta / corespondenta traditionala.
nu putem vorbi de spam pentru posta traditionale (shipping mail / address) pentru ca pur si simplu nu costa nimic adresarea unui e-mail, pe cand posta standard costa expeditorul pretul unui timbru corespunzator serviciului. Think about it: avantaje si dezavantaje (posta electronica / posta clasica)?
Pls. refer to "junk mail" too!
HTH

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E clar ca posta nedorita e implicit nesolicitata.

Reference: http://www.allromania.ro/article.php?sid=2541
Reference: http://www.softnews.ro/public/cat/10/3/3/10-3-3-8.shtml

Tehno
Local time: 17:57
Native speaker of:

Romanian
PRO pts in pair: 79

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Andrei Albu

5 hrs

-> Multumesc.

agree

Anca Nitu: e o formulare buna, eu as insista si pe promotional totusi pentru a defini scopul corespondentei nedorite, ca mesajele "spam " sunt nedorite si nesolicitate vad ca toate lumea e de acord :):) si draga Dan cei su stoparea interv.Nato cereau suport material

19 hrs

-> Multumesc. Depinde de context, Anca. Traducerea mea e general valabila, dar se poate spune si "publicitate" sau "reclame".

agree

CommsLab: Ca fapt divers: Spam is the trade name of an American brand of tinned cooked meat, widely used during the Second World War when fresh meat was hard to obtain. Because people had to eat so much of it, it became the subject of many jokes.

19 hrs

-> Multumesc si pentru explicatii. Cu alte cuvinte, ceva care il digeram fara placere, desi trebuie sa il inghitim, nu?

disagree

Dan Dascalescu: spamming-ul nu se limiteaza la corespondenta / posta. Exista si IRC spamming: "While ISPs use dynamically assigned IP addresses, IRC spamming should be taken seriously" (http://www.google.com/search?q="irc spamming")

1 day18 hrs

-> IRC (Internet Relay Chat) este un protocol de comunicatie in mod text. A coresponda inseamna a comunica. Corespondenta nu se limiteaza la posta clasica.

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

mesaje (e-mail) nesolicitate

Dan Dascalescu
United States
Local time: 07:57
Native speaker of:

Romanian
PRO pts in pair: 171

Grading comment

thank you all. sorry for delayed grading

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Cristina Moldovan do Amaral: cred ca asta ar fi raspunsul cel mai exact, pentru ca nu tot ceea ce este spam este si comercial /promotional

33 mins

-> Exact, Cristina!

neutral

Anca Nitu: o curiozitate: care altul decat acela de a obtine in vreun fel bani de la destinatar sau a promova vreun produs sau serviciu ar putea fi scopul unui necunoscut care trimite mesaje nesolicitate? cred ca " promotional" este totusi esential

10 hrs

-> "comercial" nu (v. spam-urile care apelau la cititori pentru a sustine campanii gen Rosia Montana sau stoparea diferitelor interventii militare NATO). "promotional" merge.

neutral

Tehno: Anca: Consider ca spam-ul este totusi in primul rand NEDORIT.

11 hrs

-> v. explicatia de mai sus. Daca ma abonez la un serviciu si uit sa deselectez "Receive ads from partner companies", voi primi mesaje nedorite, dar SOLICITATE!

agree

Cristiana Coblis

1 day7 hrs

-> Multumesc Cristina! Anca, nu stiu ce cereau cei cu interv. Nato fiindca am sters mesajul in secunda urmatoare, dar cei cu Rosia Montana nu cereau decat semnarea unei petitii (am semnat si eu :-)

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