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ovens and dovecote

Russian translation: каменные печи д/выпечки хлеба и голубятня

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English term or phrase:ovens and dovecote
Russian translation:каменные печи д/выпечки хлеба и голубятня
Entered by: Natalie

00:32 Aug 29, 2001
English to Russian translations [PRO]
Art/Literary
English term or phrase: ovens and dovecote
"By the time he passed the manor's ovens and dovecote, a large retinue of townspeople followed him."
That's from the same book. The lord is returning to the manor now usurped by his rival. What're those 'ovens and dovecote', for God's sake?
Thank you!
Oleg
Oleg Rudavin
Ukraine
Local time: 20:23
объяснение см ниже
Explanation:
В средневековой Англии принято было, чтобы хлеб, предназначенный для продажи, выпекался в печах, принадлежащих феодалу-владельцу поместья (а зерно на муку для этого хлеба мололи, соответственно на принадлежащей ему мельнице). Так что речь идет о каменных печах, в которых пекли предназначенный для продажи хлеб.
Пример:
The Lord of the Manor's bakehouse once stood at the bottom of Mealhouse Brow. The people of Stockport had to
bake any bread which was for sale. The lord of the manor's corn mills, where they had to grind their corn into
flour, the largest mill was on nearby Millgate, and the other on what was called the Park below the old castle near Lancashire Bridge and approached along Mill Street.
In the charter granted to Robert de Stokeport In 1220 making Stockport a free borough, it was decreed:
"If the burgesses wish to bake bread to sell they must bake it at my oven, if I have an oven in the vill of Stockport,
and if I have not, let them bake it where they will"
http://www.stockportmbc.gov.uk/trail/castle.htm

Что касается голубятни, то владелец поместья также обладал исключительным правом правом на нее:
The baronial right of dovecote-building, which was the Scottish parallel to the power vested in the lord of an English manor, received a doubtless necessary check early in the seventeenth century. A statute of 1617 limited the right of building and maintaining a dovecote to those persons who held "lands or teinds of a yearly rental amounting to ten chalders of victual"; the chalder being equivalent to sixteen "bolls" of one and a quarter hundred weight each. The dovecote was to be built within two miles of the owner's land - a provision which seems more liberal to him than to the holders of the intervening fields; and only one might be so built for the amount of land named. No limit was placed upon the size of the building or upon the number of its occupants, though on these points a court would perhaps be open to reasonable argument. A dovecote, once built, was not liable to demolition merely because, in changing hands, it had passed into the possession of an owner who had not the stipulated acreage of land; nor, even if condemned by law as having been illegally erected, need it be destroyed entirely, the simple blocking of the entrance holes being deemed sufficient satisfaction.
http://pspigeonclub.org/dovecote/chapter18/cooke18.htm
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Natalie
Poland
Local time: 19:23
Grading comment
Great! Now the on-the-surface translation is quite clear. Thanks!
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Summary of answers provided
naпечи и голубятня
Marta Argat
na(сушильные печи/ сушилки/ пекарня/ печи для выпечки хлеба) и голубятня
Andrei Kostrikov
naобъяснение см ниже
Natalie


  

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54 mins
печи и голубятня


Explanation:
печи и голубятню см. Лингво

Marta Argat
Local time: 20:23
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in UkrainianUkrainian
PRO pts in pair: 40
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1 hr
(сушильные печи/ сушилки/ пекарня/ печи для выпечки хлеба) и голубятня


Explanation:
"Ovens" - это "печи", если из контекста каким-то образом следует, что это какие-то особенные печи, так и напишите. Если нет, подойдите к этому вопросу творчески: любые распространённые в сельской местности печи/помещения для сушки/ сушилки сгодятся.

"Dovecote" - "голубятня" без вариантов.



    Reference: http://www.lingvo.ru
Andrei Kostrikov
Ukraine
Local time: 20:23
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in pair: 12
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1 hr
объяснение см ниже


Explanation:
В средневековой Англии принято было, чтобы хлеб, предназначенный для продажи, выпекался в печах, принадлежащих феодалу-владельцу поместья (а зерно на муку для этого хлеба мололи, соответственно на принадлежащей ему мельнице). Так что речь идет о каменных печах, в которых пекли предназначенный для продажи хлеб.
Пример:
The Lord of the Manor's bakehouse once stood at the bottom of Mealhouse Brow. The people of Stockport had to
bake any bread which was for sale. The lord of the manor's corn mills, where they had to grind their corn into
flour, the largest mill was on nearby Millgate, and the other on what was called the Park below the old castle near Lancashire Bridge and approached along Mill Street.
In the charter granted to Robert de Stokeport In 1220 making Stockport a free borough, it was decreed:
"If the burgesses wish to bake bread to sell they must bake it at my oven, if I have an oven in the vill of Stockport,
and if I have not, let them bake it where they will"
http://www.stockportmbc.gov.uk/trail/castle.htm

Что касается голубятни, то владелец поместья также обладал исключительным правом правом на нее:
The baronial right of dovecote-building, which was the Scottish parallel to the power vested in the lord of an English manor, received a doubtless necessary check early in the seventeenth century. A statute of 1617 limited the right of building and maintaining a dovecote to those persons who held "lands or teinds of a yearly rental amounting to ten chalders of victual"; the chalder being equivalent to sixteen "bolls" of one and a quarter hundred weight each. The dovecote was to be built within two miles of the owner's land - a provision which seems more liberal to him than to the holders of the intervening fields; and only one might be so built for the amount of land named. No limit was placed upon the size of the building or upon the number of its occupants, though on these points a court would perhaps be open to reasonable argument. A dovecote, once built, was not liable to demolition merely because, in changing hands, it had passed into the possession of an owner who had not the stipulated acreage of land; nor, even if condemned by law as having been illegally erected, need it be destroyed entirely, the simple blocking of the entrance holes being deemed sufficient satisfaction.
http://pspigeonclub.org/dovecote/chapter18/cooke18.htm

Natalie
Poland
Local time: 19:23
Native speaker of: Russian
PRO pts in pair: 38294
Grading comment
Great! Now the on-the-surface translation is quite clear. Thanks!
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