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a home, a place where they belong

Spanish translation: un ambiente familiar, un lugar que es el suyo


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English term or phrase:a home, a place where they belong
Spanish translation:un ambiente familiar, un lugar que es el suyo
Entered by: Beatriz Ramírez de Haro
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Art/Literary - Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting / Art exhibit
English term or phrase: a home, a place where they belong
Same as my previous question. From an essay to introduce an art exhibit of a Mexican painter. Context:

The artist makes the men appear to be a natural part of the landscape. Even the fact that both men are shirtless seems to suggest that the men are appearing in their natural state--at home in their natural surroundings. At home in the landscape of a transplanted Mexico in the United States. Perhaps the landscape in the background gives the subjects ** a home, a place where they belong.** The result is that they appear more solitary, more displaced.

Here "home" refers to the landscape. The RAE defines hogar as "casa o domicilio", the structure, so that doesn't fit here. The word belong also presents problems, I don't like using "pertenecer", any ideas for this phrase?

Gracias a todos.
teju
United States
Local time: 15:17
un marco / encuadre / entorno, un lugar que es el suyo
Explanation:
:)

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Note added at 2 days23 hrs (2009-02-28 16:59:21 GMT) Post-grading
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Hola teju, me parece muy buena tu solución ¡agree! La incluyo en el glosario
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Beatriz Ramírez de Haro
Spain
Local time: 22:17
Grading comment
Acabé poniendo "un ambiente familiar, un lugar que ahora es el suyo". Muchas gracias por tu ayuda.
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Summary of answers provided
3 +4una morada, un lugar de pertenenciaAbaz
3 +3un hogar, un lugar del que formar parte
Jose Lozano
4 +1un hogar, un lugar al que pertenecen.cebice
3un marco / encuadre / entorno, un lugar que es el suyo
Beatriz Ramírez de Haro
3un entorno/ambiente, un lugar del que forman parte
Lucia Colombino
3un hogar, un lugar en que son parte
Michael Powers (PhD)
3proporciona a los sujetos un rincón/espacio/paraje/morada acogedor
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6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
un hogar, un lugar en que son parte


Explanation:
una sugerencia

Mike :)

Michael Powers (PhD)
United States
Local time: 16:17
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 48

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Jose Lozano: oops! sorry Michael, I hadn't read your answer... anyway, "un lugar en que son parte" sounds strange in Spanish
4 mins
  -> I agree - I like "forman parte" more.

neutral  Leticia Colombia Truque Vélez: De acuerdo con José. No es correcta esta construcción.
2 hrs
  -> De acuerdo con tu crítica constructiva, Colombia, me gusta "formar parte" más - Mike :)
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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
un hogar, un lugar del que formar parte


Explanation:
Desde luego, no traduciría "home" como "casa" en este contexto, y desde luego menos aún como "domicilio". Pero "hogar" se utiliza muy a menudo en sentido metafórico.

Jose Lozano
Spain
Local time: 22:17
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Michael Powers (PhD): me gusta más "formar parte" - Mike :)
8 mins
  -> thank you, Michael

agree  patricia scott
18 mins
  -> thank you, Patricia

agree  Leticia Colombia Truque Vélez: Voto por esta opción, pero ¿no sería mejor "un hogar, un lugar del que **forman** parte? El infinitivo choca en esa frase, en mi humilde opinión.
3 hrs
  -> Desde luego, lo había puesto como respuesta genérica, pero en la frase debe ser "forman parte". Muchas gracias
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18 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
un hogar, un lugar al que pertenecen.


Explanation:
Creo que puedes usarlo así

cebice
United States
Local time: 15:17
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  ninlil: de acuerdo
19 mins
  -> gracias
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24 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
un entorno/ambiente, un lugar del que forman parte


Explanation:
Sinceramente, la segunda parte me resulta pesada, lo sugiero porque no te gusta "pertenecen" (que a mí no me desagrada tanto).



Lucia Colombino
Uruguay
Local time: 19:17
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
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24 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
proporciona a los sujetos un rincón/espacio/paraje/morada acogedor


Explanation:
A ver si alguna de estas te sirve. Saludos

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para el resto de la frase:

el lugar que les corresponde
el lugar al que corresponden

Smartranslators
Spain
Local time: 22:17
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 52
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46 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +4
una morada, un lugar de pertenencia


Explanation:
+

Abaz
Spain
Local time: 22:17
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  literata: Me gustó "lugar de pertenencia". Muy bonito. :-)
7 mins
  -> Gracias, literata. :0)

agree  T.P. Nina Liberman
1 hr
  -> Gracias, ninalib. :0)

agree  Lucia Sbrighi
1 hr
  -> Gracias, Lucía. :0)

agree  Ivan Nieves
2 hrs
  -> Gracias, covelas. :0)
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
un marco / encuadre / entorno, un lugar que es el suyo


Explanation:
:)

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Note added at 2 days23 hrs (2009-02-28 16:59:21 GMT) Post-grading
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Hola teju, me parece muy buena tu solución ¡agree! La incluyo en el glosario

Beatriz Ramírez de Haro
Spain
Local time: 22:17
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 143
Grading comment
Acabé poniendo "un ambiente familiar, un lugar que ahora es el suyo". Muchas gracias por tu ayuda.
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