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16:04 Feb 9, 2010

English to Spanish translations [PRO]
Law (general)

English term or phrase: New parents

New parents have the right to take Parental Leave--unpaid time off work when a baby or child is born or first comes into their care.
(...)
The Employment Standards Act, 2000 (ESA) provides eligible employees who are pregnant or are new parents with the right to take unpaid time off work.

Por ahora lo traduje como "empleados que acrediten nueva paternidad" y, en la segunda parte, puse "padres recientes". No estoy del todo convencida. Agradeceré más versiones.

Sonia Anglada KudoZ activity Questions: 10 (1 open) (1 closed without grading) Answers: 26 Argentina
Local time: 15:56

Spanish translation:padres recientes

Explanation:
Consider:

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La incapacidad por maternidadLee sobre la incapacidad laboral por maternidad, cuánto tiempo dura y cómo se ... El recurso más completo de la red para padres recientes o que esperan ...
www.babycenter.com.mx/pregnancy/.../la_baja/ - En caché - Similares

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La gran importancia de las redes de madres y padres. La revolución ...14 Nov 2008 ... Hubo un tiempo en que las madres recientes estaban totalmente protegidas y ... tristeza, desorientación, incapacidad de escuchar al corazón, ...
www.elblogalternativo.com/.../la-gran-importancia-de-las-re... - En caché - Similares

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La baja por maternidad - BabyCenterLee sobre la incapacidad laboral por maternidad, cuánto tiempo dura y cómo se ... en Español - El recurso más completo de la red para padres recientes o que ...
espanol.babycenter.com › ... › Trabajo y embarazo - En caché - Similares

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Happy 2010!
eski

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eski
Mexico
Local time: 12:56

Grading comment

4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

4 +4

padres recientes

eski

4 +1

Los padres de un recién nacido tienen derecho a tomar tiempo libre del trabajo sin

AZjuancarlos

4 +1

Todo padre/todo nuevo padre...(o 'padre o madre')

Multitran

padres primerizos

liz askew

Summary of reference entries provided

Pregnancy and Parental Leave - Ontario

Lucia Colombino

Discussion entries: 9

liz askew

United Kingdom

19:37 Feb 9, 2010

Well, the translator of the Ontario Employment Standards Act and that office should be notified of the error. This is rather serious.

Marjory Hord

Mexico

licencia postnatal

18:45 Feb 9, 2010

Es un término que puede ayudar en otra parte del texto, tal vez, aunque no resuelve lo de "new parents"
http://radio.rpp.com.pe/nutricion/padres-peruanos-contaran-c...

Lucia Colombino

Uruguay

In many cases

18:33 Feb 9, 2010

"new parents" does mean "padres primerizos"... However, in this case, and now that thanks to Liz I've read the legislation, I honestly think it means "parents with a newborn child", as Lydia said. I realize that this amounts to saying that the translation on that web page is mistaken... what can I say? The same thing happened to me last week: I found two examples in Google and they were NOT good. We're all trying to help here, and we learn along the way.
I think the fact that the law in section 48 says "who is the parent of a child", A (any) child, is decisive.

Lucia Colombino

Uruguay

My previous comment has disappeared!

18:24 Feb 9, 2010

Thanks, Liz, for that link... I think it's a translation taken from the Ontario Employment Standards Act... I had put a link to the legislation, please see section 48:
http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_stat...

liz askew

United Kingdom

18:00 Feb 9, 2010

A duff translation?

Licencia por paternidad: como padres primerizos (por ej. padres naturales, padres adoptivos,
persona en relación con uno de los padres de un niño y con planes de tratar a un niño como hijo
propio) usted tiene el derecho a tomarse días libres, sin goce de haberes y con conservación del
puesto de trabajo cuando tiene un hijo o lo tiene bajo su cuidado por primera vez.
Tiene derecho a tomarse una licencia por paternidad ya sea usted empleado de tiempo

liz askew

United Kingdom

17:57 Feb 9, 2010

Hi again
Look here though and it does mention "padres primerizos"...any comments would be gratefully received:
http://www.labor.gov.on.ca/other/spanish/br_leaves.pdf

liz askew

United Kingdom

17:18 Feb 9, 2010

Seriously folks, I genuinely though "New parents" = first-time ones.
New Parents Guide
New Parents Guide. Real life experiences of a first time mom, tips,suggestions on how to decipher a newborn's cry. There will also be ways to save on baby ...
firsttimeparents101.blogspot.com/ - Cached - Similar
Cheers!

Sonia Anglada

Argentina

ASKER

16:32 Feb 9, 2010

De acuerdo, Lydia. Cuando ví el texto por primera vez, pensé en "primerizo", pero luego, al analizar el contexto, entré en la duda porque no solo los primerizos tienen derecho a la licencia.

Lydia De Jorge

United States

OJO

16:27 Feb 9, 2010

Padres primerizos implica que son padres por primera vez. En este caso creo que se refiere a que tienen in bebe recien nacido, aun cuando tengan hijos mayores...

Answers

44 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +4

new parents

padres recientes

eski
Mexico
Local time: 12:56
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 426

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Adriana Martinez: ¡Bueno! ¡Me gusta más tu propuesta! Porque padres nuevos suena rarísimo... ¡Besitos, my friend!

4 mins

-> Gracias amiga; no me parece probable que la ley descrimine a favor del primogénito: (Además de que, aqui en México, "nuevo" tiene el doble sentido de ser inexperto; sin experiencia.) Besos! eski

agree

Toni Castano: Me parece la mejor opción de todas. En este caso no hay posibilidad de equívoco o ambigüedad. En los otros, sí.

29 mins

-> Hola Toni: Gracias por tu confirmación, y saludos desde Acapulco! (Thanks for your comment, Toni!) eski

agree

jude69: ok

35 mins

-> Hi Jude; muchos saludos desde Aca! eski

agree

britos

2 hrs

-> Thanks for kind consideration, britos: Saludos! eski

disagree

Multitran: Disculpa eski,pero creo que en este caso tampoco la idea es de tiempo. saludos.

2 hrs

-> Gracias por tu comentario, Multi; aprecio tu opinion. eski

agree

la acequiera: The most concise option does the job perfectly. Saludos :) l.a.

17 hrs

-> I concur: Thanks again, L.A.! eski

2 mins confidence:

new parents padres primerizos

Explanation:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=new parents ...

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or

nuevos padres

http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:vZW40D5CiJAJ:www.frcnca...

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#
Libro Cuidados del bebe para padres primerizos de Frances Williams ...
- [ Translate this page ]
Libro Cuidados del bebe para padres primerizos de Frances Williams...
libros.mysofa.es/.../cuidados_del_bebe_para_padres_primerizos - Cached - Similar
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Pañales: Consejos para Padres Primerizos - Babysec – Pañales Ultra ...
- [ Translate this page ]
Aprendiendo de tu Bebé arrow Cuidados en la Muda arrow Pañales: Consejos para Padres Primerizos. Imprimir Enviar a un amigo. Cuidados en la Muda ...
www.babysec.cl/cuidados-en-la-muda/index.php - Cached - Similar

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I thought I should post this for others to comment upon:

http://www.labor.gov.on.ca/other/spanish/br_leaves.pdf

Licencia por paternidad: como padres primerizos (por ej. padres naturales, padres adoptivos,
persona en relación con uno de los padres de un niño y con planes de tratar a un niño como hijo
propio) usted tiene el derecho a tomarse días libres, sin goce de haberes y con conservación del
puesto de trabajo cuando tiene un hijo o lo tiene bajo su cuidado por primera vez.
Tiene derecho a tomarse una licencia por paternidad ya sea usted empleado de tiempo

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another extract:

Los empleados que toman licencia por embarazo tienen derecho a tomarse hasta 35 semanas
de licencia por paternidad, por lo general, inmediatamente después de la licencia por embarazo.
Aquellos que no toman licencia por embarazo y todos los demás padres primerizos pueden
tomarse hasta 37 semanas de licencia por paternidad, antes de las 52 semanas de la fecha en
que nació su hijo o que lo tuvo bajo su cuidado por primera vez. No es necesario que los padres
tomen las licencias al mismo tiempo.

liz askew
United Kingdom
Local time: 18:56
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 19

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Damián Ferreyra

0 min

-> Gracias!

agree

Xenia Wong: buena opción....

1 min

-> Gracias! ...padres primerizos...

agree

Eileen Banks

18 mins

-> seems I am wrong. Though I thought this meant first time parents/

agree

lizette britz

29 mins

-> seems I am wrong. Though I thought this meant first time parents.

disagree

Satto (Roberto): No se trata de padres primerizos, sino quienes acaban de ser padres de un bebe. Si esto fuere cierto quien tuviera un segundo hijo(a) no tendría derecho a tomar el permiso por paternidad reciente.

37 mins

-> Fair enough. I had understood this to actually mean first-time parents:)

neutral

Lucia Colombino: Estoy de acuerdo con el razonamiento de Roberto, y también lo dice Lydia en el recuadro para discusión.

43 mins

-> I am not an expert. I understand this to mean first-time parents.

disagree

Adriana Martinez: Sin querer sonar fuerte (y así siempre suenan los disagrees) debo expresar mi desacuerdo porque en efecto, esta política no protege a quienes son padres por vez primera, sino quienes son padres de manera reciente, como bien señalan Roberto y Lydia.

46 mins

-> I am not an expert.

disagree

Multitran: Si, tampoco quiero sonar fuerte pero esto es un error en este caso.

48 mins

-> I am not an expert./Disagrees need to be made, particularly when others deem there is an error. Otherwise this forum is not being used properly. Who doesn't make mistakes???

disagree

jude69: off track!

1 hr

-> well the majority seem to think so.

3 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

new parents Los padres de un recién nacido tienen derecho a tomar tiempo libre del trabajo sin

Explanation:
Los padres de un recién nacido tienen derecho a tomar tiempo libre del trabajo sin goce a sueldo por el nacimiento de sus hijos o al recibir para tener bajo su cuidado a un hijo...( en este caso estoy seguro que se refiere a casos de todo esto tambien es mencionado en la lay FMLA de los EEUU).
Esto es mas natural en espanol. Buena Suerte.

AZjuancarlos
Local time: 10:56
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

Spanish
PRO pts in category: 12

50 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

new parents Todo padre/todo nuevo padre...(o 'padre o madre')

Explanation:
O padre o madre, no se que dice la reglamentación.

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Sinceramente creo que es mejor dejarlo parecido al original, todo padre o madre nuevo, es decir cada vez que sea un nuevo padre o que sea padre de nuevo. Creo, y no por los kudoz, que nuevo es la palabra que corresponde porque se refiere a eso, a cada vez que son nuevos padres. Saludos.

Multitran
Argentina
Local time: 15:56
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Spanish
PRO pts in category: 8

Reference comments

2 hrs

Reference: Pregnancy and Parental Leave - Ontario

Reference information:
http://www.labour.gov.on.ca/english/es/pubs/guide/pregnancy....

Parental Leave

Both new parents have the right to take parental leave of up to 35 or 37 weeks of unpaid time off work.
Qualifying for Parental Leave

A new parent is entitled to parental leave whether he or she is a full-time, part-time, permanent or contract employee provided that the employee:

* works for an employer that is covered by the ESA,
and
* was employed for at least 13 weeks before commencing the parental leave.

An employee does not have to actively work in the 13- week period preceding the start of the parental leave. The employee could be on layoff, vacation, sick leave or pregnancy leave for all or part of the 13-week qualifying period and still be entitled to parental leave. The ESA only requires the employee to have been employed by the employer for 13 weeks before he or she may commence a parental leave.

A "parent" includes:

* a birth parent;
* an adoptive parent (whether or not the adoption has been legally finalized); or
* a person who is in a relationship of some permanence with a parent of the child and who plans on treating the child as his or her own. This includes same-sex couples.

When a Parental Leave Can Begin

A birth mother who takes pregnancy leave must ordinarily begin her parental leave as soon as her pregnancy leave ends. However, an employee's baby may not yet have come into her care for the first time when the pregnancy leave ends. For example, perhaps her baby has been hospitalized since birth and is still in the hospital's care when the pregnancy leave ends.

In this case, the employee can either commence her leave when the pregnancy leave ends or choose to return to work and start her parental leave later. If she chooses to return to work, she will be able to start her parental leave anytime within 52 weeks of the birth or the date the baby first came home from the hospital.

All other parents must begin their parental leave no later than 52 weeks after:

* the date their baby is born;
or
* the date their child first came into their care, custody and control.

The parental leave does not have to be completed within this 52-week period. It just has to be started.
Length of a Parental Leave

Birth mothers who take pregnancy leave are entitled to take up to 35 weeks of parental leave. All other new parents are entitled to take up to 37 weeks of parental leave.

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http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_stat...

48. (1) An employee who has been employed by his or her employer for at least 13 weeks and who is the parent of a child is entitled to a leave of absence without pay following the birth of the child or the coming of the child into the employee’s custody, care and control for the first time. 2000, c. 41, s. 48 (1).

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