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a joy rooted in God's rule that is never overcome in God's children.

Spanish translation: un gozo que Dios ha sembrado en el corazón de sus hijos y que jamás les podrá ser arrebatado


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English term or phrase:a joy rooted in God's rule that is never overcome in God's children.
Spanish translation:un gozo que Dios ha sembrado en el corazón de sus hijos y que jamás les podrá ser arrebatado
Entered by: Remy Arce
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18:12 Jul 28, 2009
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English term or phrase: a joy rooted in God's rule that is never overcome in God's children.
¿Podrían ayudarme con esta frase? No entiendo muy bien que sentido tiene aquí el verbo "overcome"
¡Gracias por anticipado!

Joyless faith in Jesus is a contradiction in terms. Paul summed up the goal of his whole ministry like this: "for the advancement and joy of your faith." And he told the Philippians and Thessalonians, "Rejoice always, and again I will say rejoice." Always? Yes. Not without tears of grief and pain. But still joyful. When my mother was killed, I cried for about half an hour before I could stop. But as I knelt there by my bed, I was not only grieving. I was hoping. And while it is very hard to describe, there was a kind of joy in God and his sovereign goodness that later on at her funeral I tried to express.

So don't oversimplify: it is not wrong to cry (weep with those who weep), but ***there is a joy rooted in God's rule of love that is never overcome in God's children.***
Helena Keenan
Spain
Local time: 16:39
un gozo que Dios ha sembrado en el corazón de sus hijos y que jamás les podrá ser arrebatado
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Remy Arce
Local time: 10:39
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¡Muchas gracias!
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2hay un gozo arraigado en la regla de amor de Dios que nunca es derrotado en los hijos de Dios
Ana Juliá
4 +2un gozo que Dios ha sembrado en el corazón de sus hijos y que jamás les podrá ser arrebatado
Remy Arce
4 +1en el mandato de amor de Dios hay un gozo intrínseco que nada ni nadie podrá arrebatar a los hijos
Beatriz Ramírez de Haro
4para los hijos de Dios hay un gozo en la Voluntad divina que jamás les será arrebatado
Magdalena Rasquin
4que no se rinde en sus hijos (los hijos de Dios)Verónica Lassa


  

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a joy rooted in God's rule of love that is never overcome in God's children.
hay un gozo arraigado en la regla de amor de Dios que nunca es derrotado en los hijos de Dios


Explanation:
El gozo no cae derrotado por las circunstancias negativas (como la muerte de la madre).
Tal vez haya otra forma mejor de expresarlo.
Espero haberte ayudado.
Ana :)

Ana Juliá
Spain
Local time: 16:39
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Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
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agree  jude69
5 hrs

agree  juanjomendi: Tal vez mejore con "se rinde" en lugar de con "es derrotado". Estaría más acorde con la teología paulina que el texto muestra
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a joy rooted in god's rule that is never overcome in god's children.
que no se rinde en sus hijos (los hijos de Dios)


Explanation:
Esa alegría que está en la base de su ley, no se deja vencer en quienes son sus hijos. La idea es que prevalece (por encima del llanto o el dolor)

Ojalá ayude

Verónica Lassa
Argentina
Local time: 12:39
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a joy rooted in god's rule that is never overcome in god's children.
un gozo que Dios ha sembrado en el corazón de sus hijos y que jamás les podrá ser arrebatado


Explanation:
otra interpretación

Remy Arce
Local time: 10:39
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Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 265
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¡Muchas gracias!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Deborah Lockett: sí, en caso de que nos abstenemos de llorar negamos nuestra naturaleza humana, por eso es bueno que lo hagamos, pero siempre conscientes de que el amor de Dios nos rodea en cada momento
14 hrs
  -> ¡gracias Deborah!, me hago eco de tus hermosas palabras.

agree  David Torre
22 hrs
  -> ¡gracias David!
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
a joy rooted in god's rule that is never overcome in god's children.
en el mandato de amor de Dios hay un gozo intrínseco que nada ni nadie podrá arrebatar a los hijos


Explanation:
... de Dios".

Beatriz Ramírez de Haro
Spain
Local time: 16:39
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Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 904

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Marjory Hord: suena mas natural
5 hrs
  -> Gracias, Marjory - Bea
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19 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
a joy rooted in god's rule that is never overcome in god's children.
para los hijos de Dios hay un gozo en la Voluntad divina que jamás les será arrebatado


Explanation:
Para traducir "overcome" como vencer podríamos parafrasear algo así como "hay un gozo reservado para los hijos de Dios.... y éstos jamás serán vencidos"

Magdalena Rasquin
Argentina
Local time: 12:39
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
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