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14:33 Nov 2, 2009

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French to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Accounting / audit

French term or phrase: rectification contradictoire

I intend modifying the basis for calculation and/or the total amount of some taxes for the reasons set out below. On receipt of this letter, you will have thirty days in which to send me your comments or your acceptance. En cas d'application de la procedure de rectification contradictoire, vous pouvez demander dans ce delai une prorogation de 30 jours. Sans reponse de votre part dans ce delai, la proposition de rectification sera consideree comme acceptee.

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3 -2

opposing amendment

Verginia Ophof

Summary of reference entries provided

Vicky James

cmwilliams

jugement contradictoire

Stephanie Ezrol

contradictoire

Rob Grayson

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32 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): -2

opposing amendment

Explanation:
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Verginia Ophof
Belize
Local time: 21:29
Native speaker of: English

Reference comments

53 mins

Reference

Reference information:
Rectification contradictoire: contribuable associé à la procédure

La procédure de rectification contradictoire permet au contribuable d’être associé à la procédure, ce qui n’implique en rien une rédaction conjointe de l’acte d’imposition. Le contribuable se voit reconnaître la possibilité, à plusieurs reprises, de se défendre avant que le redressement ne soit notifié.
Qui est concerné par la procédure ?
La procédure de rectification contradictoire est normalement réservée aux contribuables qui ont rempli leurs obligations fiscales (dépôt des déclarations, soumission au contrôle des agents des services fiscaux).
Malgré le respect de ses obligations fiscales, un contribuable peut néanmoins être privé de cette procédure. La loi prévoit effectivement plusieurs cas exclusif d’une telle application (en matière impôts directs locaux, de contributions indirectes et de certains droits de timbre ou lorsque le contribuable est en situation d’être évalué ou taxé d’office)

http://www.easydroit.fr/impots/controle-fiscal/procedures_re...

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Note added at 54 mins (2009-11-02 15:28:08 GMT)
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Some sort of process involving the taxpayer - hence the "contradictoire" element. No idea what it is in English though!

Vicky James
United Kingdom
Native speaker of:

English

Note to reference poster

Asker: Thank you for the information - much appreciated

2 hrs

Reference

Reference information:
Pour réaliser un redressement, le fisc doit utiliser une procédure particulière : la procédure de rectification contradictoire.

Une obligation d'information
L'administration fiscale n'a pas le droit d'effectuer un redressement sans informer préalablement le contribuable. Aussi, quand elle veut rectifier l'impôt d'un particulier, elle doit obligatoirement lui envoyer un courrier en recommandé avec avis de réception. Ce courrier est appelé " proposition de rectification contradictoire ". Le terme contradictoire signifie qu'en cas de désaccord avec la proposition, le contribuable peut formuler des observations auxquelles le fisc est tenu de répondre.
http://www.lemoneymag.fr/v5/fiche/s_Fiche_v5/0,6171,14116,00...

cmwilliams
United Kingdom
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 44

Note to reference poster

Asker: Thanks for the info.

1 hr

Reference: jugement contradictoire

Reference information:
"judgement after hearing all sides." I think that that must be the sense here. Its from the Cassell's French-English disctionary.

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Note added at 3 hrs (2009-11-02 17:45:45 GMT)
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There is a book, "Courts and Tax Treaty Law"
http://www.ibfd.org/portal/Product_Tax_Treaties_Europe_ECJ.h...
AND
http://books.google.com/books?id=QZmIhXOqfi4C&pg=PA229&lpg=P...
Look at page 229. Section 10.1.2.3.1. He explains in English but couldn't find an English phrase

Stephanie Ezrol
United States
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 8
1 corroborated select project
in this pair and field

4 mins peer agreement (net): +2

Reference: contradictoire

Reference information:
If you do a KudoZ search on "contradictoire" and read through a few relevant examples, it will help you begin to understand the notion of "contradictoire" in this type of context (which should under no circumstances be translated "contradictory"!).

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Note added at 2 days25 mins (2009-11-04 14:58:56 GMT)
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Funny, considering you previously thanked me for my "tip"! I wasn't necessarily saying that you personally wanted all your work doing for you; however, there is undeniably a growing trend on KudoZ for askers to post terms which they could translate themselves with minimal research. This is what was behind my comment.

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Note added at 2 days1 hr (2009-11-04 16:23:18 GMT)
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I'm sorry, I have no idea what you're trying to say. I did not make a "comment to a moderator". I made a comment in response to Julie's comment, which I felt was out of place. The fact that she is a mod had nothing to do with it. My comment was addressed to her as someone who had commented on my post, not as a moderator.

Nor do I understand how your appealing to writeaway's comment is supposed to bear on this.

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Note added at 2 days2 hrs (2009-11-04 16:42:00 GMT)
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I'm inclined to say the same. This is what you get for taking the time to try to be helpful.

Rob Grayson
United Kingdom
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 64

Note to reference poster

Asker: Thanks for the tip!

Asker: I would not dream of asking you to do all the work for me, all i wanted was a straightforward answer to a question that I hadn't been able to sort out for myself. If you dont want to help, why put your name forward in the first place?

Asker: See writeway's comment - I was indeed grateful for the tip, but then you spoiled it with your comment to the moderator.

Asker: Oh please, just forget it, I can't be bothered with this. I wish I'd never asked the flippin' question now! I do appreciate you answering though, all contributions really are gratefully received

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