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English translation: charges net of... (see below)


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French term or phrase:dotations nettes
English translation:charges net of... (see below)
Entered by: tragedyqueen
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21:19 Nov 23, 2009
French to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Accounting / dotations nettes
French term or phrase: dotations nettes
EBE retraité designe
le Résultat économique
augmenté des dotations nettes de reprises aux provisions d'exploitation sur actifs,
augmenté des dotations nettes des reprises aux provisions d'exploitation for risques et charges

I've put this so far but I was wondering if somebody could correct me.

“Readjusted EBITDA”: designates:

(a) the Economic result
(b) increased by allowances net of reversals to the operating provisions on assets,

TIA.
tragedyqueen
Local time: 21:36
charges net of... (see below)
Explanation:
OK, there are several things here.

First off, "résultat économique" should be "ecobomic profit" rather than "economic result".

Secondly, you have to look at "dotation nette" in the context of the sentence as a whole; you can't just insert "net allocation" and be done with it.

As rkillings has pointed out, if you want to comply with current international accounting standards (which you are advised to do unless there's a good reason not to), "provisions sur actifs" is impairment of assets. This is when the value of an asset falls and therefore has to be adjusted downwards on the balance sheet.

Now, let's take the first occurrence of "dotation":

"dotations nettes de reprises aux provisions d'exploitation sur actifs"

A "dotation" is a charge (or allocation), usually to a provision, amortisation or depreciation account. A "reprise", in this context, is a write-back of such a charge – i.e. what happens when a charge that has previously been raised is subsequently reversed. SO the way this should actually be read is as follows:

"dotations aux provisions d'exploitation sur actifs, nettes de reprises"

i.e. "operating asset impairment charges net of write-backs."

Finally, "provisions pour risques et charges" is usually "provisions for liabilities and charges". If you don't know what this is, Google will help you find out quickly.

So, the whole thing becomes:

"Adjusted (or restated) EBITDA denotes:

Economic profit
Plus operating asset impairment charges net of write-backs
Plus operating provisions for liabilities and charges net of write-backs"

Two things I'd like to add:

(1) This is lots of questions in one. I know you only asked about "dotations nettes", but as you can see from my explanation, the whole thing needs to be understood in context.

(2) This nicely illustrates the fact that, like many specialist fields, finance and accounting is a minefield for translators who lack the required specialisation and experience. Great care should be taken before accepting jobs like this, as errors in translation could have significant consequences for the end client.

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Note added at 10 hrs (2009-11-24 08:02:51 GMT)
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BTW, I did not add any references as I didn't have time to go looking for them. But if you Google any of the terms I've used, you'll find a wealth of explanations and examples.
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Rob Grayson
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:36
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Thanks Rob. This was a very small part of a much larger legal text.
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4charges net of... (see below)
Rob Grayson
3net allocations
Chris Hall


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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
net allocations


Explanation:
According to GDT, dotation = allocation (1st result):

Définition:
Action d'imputer une somme à un exercice en la portant à la fois dans un compte de charges et dans un compte de provision (ou de réduction de valeur).

Chris Hall
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:36
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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10 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
charges net of... (see below)


Explanation:
OK, there are several things here.

First off, "résultat économique" should be "ecobomic profit" rather than "economic result".

Secondly, you have to look at "dotation nette" in the context of the sentence as a whole; you can't just insert "net allocation" and be done with it.

As rkillings has pointed out, if you want to comply with current international accounting standards (which you are advised to do unless there's a good reason not to), "provisions sur actifs" is impairment of assets. This is when the value of an asset falls and therefore has to be adjusted downwards on the balance sheet.

Now, let's take the first occurrence of "dotation":

"dotations nettes de reprises aux provisions d'exploitation sur actifs"

A "dotation" is a charge (or allocation), usually to a provision, amortisation or depreciation account. A "reprise", in this context, is a write-back of such a charge – i.e. what happens when a charge that has previously been raised is subsequently reversed. SO the way this should actually be read is as follows:

"dotations aux provisions d'exploitation sur actifs, nettes de reprises"

i.e. "operating asset impairment charges net of write-backs."

Finally, "provisions pour risques et charges" is usually "provisions for liabilities and charges". If you don't know what this is, Google will help you find out quickly.

So, the whole thing becomes:

"Adjusted (or restated) EBITDA denotes:

Economic profit
Plus operating asset impairment charges net of write-backs
Plus operating provisions for liabilities and charges net of write-backs"

Two things I'd like to add:

(1) This is lots of questions in one. I know you only asked about "dotations nettes", but as you can see from my explanation, the whole thing needs to be understood in context.

(2) This nicely illustrates the fact that, like many specialist fields, finance and accounting is a minefield for translators who lack the required specialisation and experience. Great care should be taken before accepting jobs like this, as errors in translation could have significant consequences for the end client.

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 10 hrs (2009-11-24 08:02:51 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

BTW, I did not add any references as I didn't have time to go looking for them. But if you Google any of the terms I've used, you'll find a wealth of explanations and examples.

Rob Grayson
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:36
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 64
Grading comment
Thanks Rob. This was a very small part of a much larger legal text.
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Changes made by editors
Nov 28, 2009 - Changes made by tragedyqueen:
Created KOG entryKudoZ term => KOG term
Nov 24, 2009 - Changes made by Rob Grayson:
LevelNon-PRO => PRO
Nov 23, 2009 - Changes made by Tony M:
Term askeddotations nettes des reprises aux provisions d\'exploitation sur actifs => dotations nettes


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