14:13 Nov 22, 2011 

Thanks!

14:06 Nov 22, 2011 

@Colin : a very nice, succinct explanation there, Colin.
Apologies for the mix-up with my PIC.

11:51 Nov 22, 2011 

I got it, thanks!

10:37 Nov 22, 2011 

Your own text is a good example of the distinction between PF and PIC.
The commandant de bord (captain, presumably the PIC, i.e. the pilot responsible for the flight as a whole) is stated here to be the PNF. In other words, although he bears responsibility for the flight, he is not actually flying the plane at this given moment.
The PF, on the other hand, is the pilot who is in charge of the controls at the specific given moment, i.e. the "passage du point X", but is not necessarily the pilot in command (PIC). The PF happens to be flying the plane for this particular leg of the flight, but he is doing so under the command of the PIC.

10:19 Nov 22, 2011 

you're right. Here's what I found on their web site : A recent letter to the editor raised the question of Pilot in Command (PIC) and whether a safety pilot could log PIC time. This is one of those “can of worms” questions.
In my opinion, the FAA lawyers who prepared the final wording of the regulation have gone out of their way to be confusing in [...]

10:09 Nov 22, 2011 

Thanks, Kevin, but the link doesn't work!

10:07 Nov 22, 2011 

Hi Odile, try reading this, it will help :
www.empire-aviation.com/...e.../logging-pilot-in-command-ti...

09:37 Nov 22, 2011 

Thanks, Kevin. I had "pilot in command". What about PNF then? PNIC?

09:34 Nov 22, 2011 

Thanks so much!