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indemnités viagères de départ

English translation: early retirement incentive-related annuities


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French term or phrase:indemnités viagères de départ
English translation:early retirement incentive-related annuities
Entered by: Eutychus
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13:38 Feb 1, 2008
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Agriculture / Common Agricultural Policy
French term or phrase: indemnités viagères de départ
Payments made to farmers in connection with ceasing of agricultural activity, by set-aside or retirement etc.
"Les soutiens en faveur de la cessation d’activité en agriculture (boîte verte, voir article 9 de l’annexe 2 de l’AACU).
Représentant un montant de 89 millions d’euros (dont 15% en provenance de l’UE), ils s’inscrivent dans le cadre des dispositifs de pré-retraite ou d’indemnités viagères de départ."
Karen Vincent-Jones
United Kingdom
Local time: 16:55
early retirement incentive-related benefits
Explanation:
On the basis of Emma's link, I wonder if the "indemnités viagères de départ" in the text is not simply a case of adding the precise term for the more generally understood term which immediately precedes it: "dispositifs de pré-retraite ".
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Eutychus
Local time: 17:55
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Thank you Eutychus. I have selected this answer on the basis that 'early retirement' is the essential element .
3 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +2annuities compensating for early departureFrançois Crompton-Roberts
4pension benefitsrkillings
3early retirement incentive-related benefits
Eutychus


Discussion entries: 2





  

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59 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
early retirement incentive-related benefits


Explanation:
On the basis of Emma's link, I wonder if the "indemnités viagères de départ" in the text is not simply a case of adding the precise term for the more generally understood term which immediately precedes it: "dispositifs de pré-retraite ".

Eutychus
Local time: 17:55
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 15
Grading comment
Thank you Eutychus. I have selected this answer on the basis that 'early retirement' is the essential element .
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you for your suggestion, Eutychus. I am sure you are right that these are incentives for retirement, but I think it is important to hold on to the annnuities element here.

Asker: I think you need 'annuities' too, so I have added this for the glosssary entry

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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
annuities compensating for early departure


Explanation:
The characteritic of a "viager" is periodic payments during the lifetime of the recipient which come to an end on his/her death.

François Crompton-Roberts
United Kingdom
Local time: 16:55
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you François- I am sure you are correct about the 'annuities'. However, 'early departure' doesn't sound quite right to me- although of course it would mean not having to repeat 'early retirement'.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Eutychus: 'annuity' would provide extra clarity, yes.
3 mins
agree  Anca Nitu: lifelong annuity for leaving a company or a service ( viagère )
6 hrs
  -> "Retirement" may be too specific". When I retired from my university (on a group offer) those who were over 50 were offered "retirement" those below, "severance". Could that term serve?
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
pension benefits


Explanation:
Turn the phrase around and say "pension benefits or other early-retirement incentives".
2 reasons: the French term indicating lifetime annuities in unnecessarily specific in this context, used only because IVD is such a set term; and although the pension benefits may be supplemental to any the farmer already has, this goes without saying (because they wouldn't be an incentive otherwise).

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Note added at 5 hrs (2008-02-01 19:30:28 GMT)
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sorry, *is* unnecessarily.

rkillings
United States
Local time: 08:55
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you, rkillings. I like your suggestion of turning the phrase round. However, I think the 'annuities' element should be retained.

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Feb 6, 2008 - Changes made by Eutychus:
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