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autres précédents que forestiers

English translation: land that was not previously forested


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French term or phrase:autres précédents que forestiers
English translation:land that was not previously forested
Entered by: Eutychus
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15:26 Aug 22, 2008
French to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Agriculture
French term or phrase: autres précédents que forestiers
From a book on cocoa, talking about the situation in Ghana.
I realize I am quite tired, but I have to admit, I am having trouble with the entire last sentence. I will post two separate questions.
I found precedent in a farming context to mean preceding crops or first crops, or is it the idea of crops based on criteria other than forest land?

Le problème de la
rémunération du planteur devient crucial pour le développement durable des filières
cacaoyères quand on arrive à l’épuisement de leurs terres d’élection : les forêts. À la fois se
pose le défi de l’installation, plus chère, sur d’autres précédents que forestiers, et celui de
l’augmentation des rendements du verger existant par le biais d’utilisation d’intrants.
French Foodie
Local time: 17:56
land that was not previously forested
Explanation:
"previously forested land" seems common

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Note added at 23 mins (2008-08-22 15:50:01 GMT)
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Um, I think "land that was not previously forested" means that there were never any forests there. Which is I think what this text means. There are not further opportunities for using land where forest once stood, so they have to use land other than previously forested land, like the local cricket pitch or something.
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Eutychus
Local time: 17:56
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This sounds clearest to me. Thanks to everyone for your help with this tricky sentence!
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Summary of answers provided
3 +4land that was not previously forested
Eutychus
4on forests lands previously cultivatedMatthewLaSon
3preceding crop other than forestsJean-Louis S.


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13 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
preceding crop other than forests


Explanation:
it is preceding/previous crop (although a forest might not be considered a crop in all contexts)

Jean-Louis S.
United States
Local time: 11:56
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  MatthewLaSon: I agree with your understanding, but not your translation.
1 day1 hr
  -> Thank you Matthew!
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8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +4
land that was not previously forested


Explanation:
"previously forested land" seems common

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Note added at 23 mins (2008-08-22 15:50:01 GMT)
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Um, I think "land that was not previously forested" means that there were never any forests there. Which is I think what this text means. There are not further opportunities for using land where forest once stood, so they have to use land other than previously forested land, like the local cricket pitch or something.

Eutychus
Local time: 17:56
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 15
Grading comment
This sounds clearest to me. Thanks to everyone for your help with this tricky sentence!
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks Eutychus, that sounded most natural to my ears when I was first tackling this sentence, but since the forests have been all exhausted, I don't see how they can move to land that was not forested, since it no longer exists. Don't know if I'm making sense here... :-)

Asker: Yes, of course, now I see. Oh, dear. I think I need a break - I was reading forested as DEforested in my head. Thanks very much for your help!!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Jean-Louis S.
4 mins

agree  Mark Nathan: other land that was not previously forested
5 hrs

agree  Catherine CHAUVIN
17 hrs

agree  B D Finch
19 hrs
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
on forests lands previously cultivated


Explanation:
Hello,

sur d'autres précédents que forestiers = on lands where other crops have grown other than natural forest land vegetation

précédents = where previous crops have grown (now to be considered before planting the cacao bean plants)

The soil is used to the "previous crops". It's better not to plant on forest grounds that have never been cultivated before.

A little tricky, that one!

I hope this helps.


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Note added at 1 day9 hrs (2008-08-24 01:01:11 GMT) Post-grading
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Disregard everything I said above except for my translation.

The meaning, so it seems, is that the cocoa bean farmers are being forced into buying forest land that has already been cultivated because virgin forest land is becoming very scarce. The problem then is that land that's already been cultivated is more expensive. Honestly, though, I don't know why.

MatthewLaSon
Local time: 11:56
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Notes to answerer
Asker: Your post-grading note was extremely helpful, Matthew. Thank you.

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