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French term or phrase:'-'40,000
English translation:40,000 years ago
Entered by: Richard Flight
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08:39 May 14, 2005
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Social Sciences - Archaeology
French term or phrase: '-'40,000
Phrase:

Cette couche, datée de -40,000 ans, est caracterisée par l'industrie mousterienne - des outils traditionnellement associés avec l'homme de Neandertal.

My question is whether '-40,000' means '40,000 BC', '40,000 years ago', or something else (as elsewhere I found that Neanderthals had lived about 150,000 years ago).

Thanks.
Richard Flight
Local time: 18:01
40,000 years ago
Explanation:
as to the Neanderthal period: The Neandertal1 or Neanderthal was a species of genus Homo (Homo neanderthalensis4) that inhabited Europe and parts of Western Asia from about 230,000 to 29,000 years ago.

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Neandertal
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Valentin Alupoaie
Romania
Local time: 19:01
Grading comment
Thanks, both of you. I liked 'BP' too, but things like "dated back 30,000-odd years" just seemed to suit my particular text a little better. I sent the translation in on Tuesday so I'll let you know if I get any feedback from the client on this issue.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +540,000 years ago
Valentin Alupoaie
5 +140,000 B.P.
Christopher Crockett


  

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40,000 years ago


Explanation:
as to the Neanderthal period: The Neandertal1 or Neanderthal was a species of genus Homo (Homo neanderthalensis4) that inhabited Europe and parts of Western Asia from about 230,000 to 29,000 years ago.

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Neandertal

Valentin Alupoaie
Romania
Local time: 19:01
Native speaker of: Native in RomanianRomanian
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thanks, both of you. I liked 'BP' too, but things like "dated back 30,000-odd years" just seemed to suit my particular text a little better. I sent the translation in on Tuesday so I'll let you know if I get any feedback from the client on this issue.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Jorge Rodrigues
17 mins
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agree  David Sirett
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agree  Catherine Christaki
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agree  pamkrin
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agree  Christopher Crockett: Yes, definitely.
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
40,000 B.P.


Explanation:
Valentin is right, it's definitely before the present, *not* B.C.

More often expressed in anglophone archeological (and palaeological/geological) literature as "40,000 BP., i.e., "40,000 Before the Present".

As opposed to, say, "38,000 B.C." or "38,000 B.C.E." ("Before the Common Era"), which doesn't make too much sense when dealing with such a long period of time before the relatively recent moment from which we count our years.

I don't think i've ever seen "-40,000" before, but I don't read French archeological literature concerning prehistoric periods.

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Note added at 7 hrs 1 min (2005-05-14 15:40:44 GMT)
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On \"B.P.\" see also :

http://www.answers.com/topic/bp-1 --definition 4

http://archaeology.about.com/od/bterms/g/bp.htm --makes an interesting point about the problem with using B.P. \"the Present, of course, changes every year.\"

However, this \"B.P.\" usage is usually reserved for periods of time which are so large (tens of thousands to millions of years) that +/- a few years makes no difference, since the dates are not precise in the first place.

And, on dating systems generally:

http://anthro.palomar.edu/time/time_2.htm


Radio carbon dating, of course, depends upon this \"B.P.\" concept to begin with, though the dates arrived at via this method are generally converted into \"A.D.\" or \"B.C.\" dates, unless they are from many thousand years in the past : http://www.religioustolerance.org/c14dats.htm

Christopher Crockett
Local time: 12:01
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 32

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  xxxBourth: Given that between BC and BP there is only 2000 yrs, it hardly makes any difference in geological time!
20 hrs
  -> Geologically speaking, all of human history --and prehistory-- is just an eyeblink. Thanks, Bourth.
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