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outils de fonds communs ... parfois singuliers

English translation: common tool types ... sometimes individual (types)


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French term or phrase:outils de fonds communs ... parfois singuliers
English translation:common tool types ... sometimes individual (types)
Entered by: Rachel Fell
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14:25 Oct 21, 2005
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Archaeology / Neolithic
French term or phrase: outils de fonds communs ... parfois singuliers
Translation of an abstract concering an archaeological study. Full sentence:

Les approches typochronologiques des lames de haches polies en silex, des lames retouchées -dont des poignards de technique pressignienne-, des pointes de flèches, d’outils de fonds communs (grattoirs, racloirs, tranchets, etc.) parfois singuliers et autres artefacts en roche tenace (haches polies en jadéite, brassards d’archers, haches "de combat") permettent néanmoins de percevoir sur un plan diachronique la diversité des formes et des matières premières employées.

Proposed translation:

Nevertheless, a typochronological analysis of polished flint axe blades, retouched blades — including daggers made using the Pressignian technique — arrowheads, ? tools (end scrapers, side scrapers, tranchet axes, etc.) and other artefacts made from tenacious rock (jadeite polished axes, archery arm guards, ‘battle’ axes, etc.) allows for a diachronical interpretation of the variety of shapes and raw materials used.

Any help with the phrase in question would be greatly appreciated! Many thanks in advance.
Alan Campbell
Local time: 17:01
common tool types ... sometimes unusual
Explanation:
not quite sure about the unusual

The most common tool types were burins and scrapers while nibbled blades were
... on Neolithic 1 sites although a few items of jewelry were sometimes made. ...
ancientneareast.tripod.com/101.html

They represent the most common Neolithic tool type, and cannot be related to the
earlier blade types. Raclettes on large flakes are common, ...
www.vela-spila.hr/eng/early-neolithic.html

In chapter 3 the most common flint tool types are considered, ... 9), with an
intervening excursus on Neolithic flint axehead production (chap. 7). ...
www.ucl.ac.uk/prehistoric/reviews/05_09_butler.htm

Only one of the tools, a whetstone, is clearly from post-Neolithic times, ...
The most common tool type is small scrapers. We recovered 20 scrapers made on ...
www.primtech.net/Report.htm

Also, I think you should paraphrase "typochronological" - e.g. analysis of tool types across time

According to Bordes, the presence or absence of tool types, ... isolate (and
interpret) differences across time and space in the production of stone tools. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithic_analysis
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Rachel Fell
Local time: 17:01
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Summary of answers provided
4common tool types ... sometimes unusual
Rachel Fell
3 +1community toolsEmérentienne
4functionally similar tools or tools found in the same excavation areaJane Lamb-Ruiz
4commonly found digging implements /toolsreubenius
3common tools, often "one of a kind"RHELLER


Discussion entries: 10





  

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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
community tools


Explanation:
my understanding is that the tools belong to a fonds commun, i.e. to all the members of a community.

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Note added at 15 mins (2005-10-21 14:40:46 GMT)
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or maybe something lile "collectively-owned tools"

These are only suggestions as I'm no expert on the subject :)

Emérentienne
Local time: 18:01
Native speaker of: French

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Jane Lamb-Ruiz: mais c'est fonds communs....le fond d'une fouille??
2 hrs
  -> non pas dans ce sens là, fonds commun serait synonyme de patrimoine d'outillage commun à une période ou une collectivité

agree  xxxdf49f: suis pas non plus spécialiste du domaine, mais je pencherais aussi pour cette explication (pas le tps pour faire une recherche...)
3 hrs
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21 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
commonly found digging implements /tools


Explanation:
or just 'common' digging implements /tools.

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hmm, I was quite confident, but then I saw the 'parfois singuliers'. Maybe 'commonly found and less common digging implements /tools (...) allow for...'

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hmm, I was quite confident, but then I saw the 'parfois singuliers'. Maybe 'commonly found and less common digging implements /tools (...) allow for...'

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Following on from Rita's 'one of a kind', what about 'one-off' as an alternative option i.e. 'commonly found and one-off digging implements /tools'.

reubenius
United Kingdom
Local time: 17:01
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  RHELLER: commonly found is good
11 mins
  -> Thanks Rita.

neutral  Jane Lamb-Ruiz: I don't see how the French means that at all...how can fonds communs mean commonly found, unless you are unconsciously saying fond is found?? :)
2 hrs
  -> My idea was that 'outils de fonds' could mean 'digging implements', but with further research I can't find anything to support the idea!

disagree  xxxdf49f: puisqu'ils sont "singuliers" ils ne sont justement pas "commonly found" !
3 hrs
  -> donc 'one off' (voir note), meme si je suis sur qu'il y a une meilleur facon de l'exprimer!
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
functionally similar tools or tools found in the same excavation area


Explanation:
not sure


but it does not mean commonly used tools

that would be: d'usage commun or suchlike



Jane Lamb-Ruiz
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common tool types ... sometimes unusual


Explanation:
not quite sure about the unusual

The most common tool types were burins and scrapers while nibbled blades were
... on Neolithic 1 sites although a few items of jewelry were sometimes made. ...
ancientneareast.tripod.com/101.html

They represent the most common Neolithic tool type, and cannot be related to the
earlier blade types. Raclettes on large flakes are common, ...
www.vela-spila.hr/eng/early-neolithic.html

In chapter 3 the most common flint tool types are considered, ... 9), with an
intervening excursus on Neolithic flint axehead production (chap. 7). ...
www.ucl.ac.uk/prehistoric/reviews/05_09_butler.htm

Only one of the tools, a whetstone, is clearly from post-Neolithic times, ...
The most common tool type is small scrapers. We recovered 20 scrapers made on ...
www.primtech.net/Report.htm

Also, I think you should paraphrase "typochronological" - e.g. analysis of tool types across time

According to Bordes, the presence or absence of tool types, ... isolate (and
interpret) differences across time and space in the production of stone tools. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithic_analysis

Rachel Fell
Local time: 17:01
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33 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
common tools, often "one of a kind"


Explanation:
seems that the set/group of tools are commonly found (I agreed w/Reuben) but they are unique/ one of a kind (no mass production at that time :-)

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Note added at 34 mins (2005-10-21 15:00:32 GMT)
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I think "outils de fonds" = basic tools

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Note added at 1 hr 11 mins (2005-10-21 15:37:36 GMT)
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it's possible but it might just mean that they are individualized - highly unique which makes sense because there were no standards, no guidelines, so the carver just made what seemed to be the most efficient tool. Re: composition, they didn't have many choices.

Also, each "inventor" probably passed through stages of invention and certain tools might have seemed like a good idea but who knows if it ever worked? Nowadays, bad prototypes are simply trashed, we never see them.

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Note added at 6 hrs 20 mins (2005-10-21 20:46:30 GMT)
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43 - Les cultures du Néolithique final -

Différentes cultures du Néolithique final ont été reconnues grâce à la présence de quelques rares éléments céramiques et de nombreux éléments lithiques trouvés hors stratigraphie, en particulier des pointes de traits, des grandes lames retouchées, des tranchets et des outils du fond commun.
http://www.prehistory.lu/vo_txt2.htm

Dans le Tardenoisien moyen, les outils sur lames et lamelles constituent l'essentiel des outils du fonds commun : au moins les deux-tiers et souvent les quatre-cinquièmes, voire les six-septièmes, tendance particulièrement marquée au sud de la Seine, qui commence ainsi à se distinguer du Tardenoisien-Nord.
http://www.membres.lycos.fr/rozoyprehistoire/Travaux/ardtard...
Parmi l’outillage du fond commun, nous mentionnerons, dans les US 102 et 103, la ...
www.york.ac.uk/depts/arch/ med/acrobat/Ecrins%202001/Ecrins2001.pdf

http://antiquity.ac.uk/ant/062/Ant0620532.htm
Some of the most common stone tool types are described and illustrated in the final section of the book. These tools are of course not merely common: they also represent the best of the diagnostic attributes among various stone tools, some of which (like the burin) are essentially toolmaking tools. Endblades for arrows and harpoon heads, knife blades, sideblades, microblades, and scrapers
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3712/is_200003/a...

RHELLER
Local time: 10:01
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Rachel Fell: about the individualized bit - different from the usual design
4 hrs

disagree  xxxdf49f: are they "common" or are they "one-of-a-kind/unique"? can't be both at once - too ambiguous...
19 hrs
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