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English translation: evidence of quarrying


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French term or phrase:témoins de carrière
English translation:evidence of quarrying
Entered by: Christopher Crockett
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16:52 Apr 2, 2006
French to English translations [PRO]
Archaeology / Mesolithic
French term or phrase: témoins de carrière
Can anyone confirm whether I’m on the right track with my suggested translation for “témoins de carrière”? If not, does anyone have an alternative suggestion? (I’m having trouble with the other terms in the list, but, although they’re related, I’m only allowed to list one term at a time, so I am posting a question for each term separately.) The term appears in a text I am translating to be used as part of a museum exhibit on a (Mesolithic) site in Luxembourg. Here is the sentence where it occurs in the text, along with my effort at translating it:

La plupart de ces blocs portent des gravures ou des aménagements qui existent dans toute la région du grès de Luxembourg et dateraient de la fin de la Préhistoire et de la Protohistoire : rainures de polissage, cupules, sillons, glissières, témoins de carrière.

The majority of these rocks are marked with engravings or alterations such as polishing grooves, small cavities, furrows, tracks and evidence of quarrying that can be found throughout the Luxembourg sandstone region and which are believed to date from late prehistory and protohistory.

Or is there such a thing as “quarry markers”, for example?

I presume that all terms in the list refer to markings made during the quarrying process …

Many thanks for any help!
Alan Campbell
Local time: 17:01
evidence of quarrying
Explanation:
I'd go with your own suggestion.

As I read it, the "rainures de polissage, cupules, sillons, glissières" are in part evidence of manufacturing of stone tools, in addition to being "témoins de carrière" --i.e., both "quarrying" (extracting the stones from the bed) and manufacturing took place at this site.
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Christopher Crockett
Local time: 12:01
Grading comment
Thanks for your answer. Yes, I think you're right - later on in the text, it says that the site was used as a sandstone quarry. So I've kept my translation. Thanks for your input.
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Summary of answers provided
3 +2signs of having been quarriedxxxBourth
4evidence of quarrying
Christopher Crockett
3samples of quarry???moderhak
3telltale quarryntaylor
1see explanation - remains / evidence of quarries ?
juliebarba


  

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telltale quarry


Explanation:
telltale = témoin, used in construction with plaster.
I was looking for anyt telltale signs of human settlement

ntaylor
Local time: 10:01
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samples of quarry???


Explanation:
well , it made me think of 'samples'
but again here there is a a risk of misinterpretation
there s something like samples from quarry so definitely it is not about that
so if somebody doesn't misinterpret it maybe it would be possible 'samples of quarry'???
mais ce n'est pas un conseil professionnel

moderhak
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see explanation - remains / evidence of quarries ?


Explanation:
Only guessing here...are you sure that 'carriere' shouldn't have an 's' on the end? I've been looking round the net for you and come up with 'témoins' on archeo' sites with the traditional meaning of indicators/proof/evidence etc...and I looked up carrière in tech dictionary as being a quarry or pit. The dictionary had various for 'témoins', usually with 'indicator' in it...(it could mean 'mark' too..). Could temoins mean 'remains' here?

Found examples on sites:

Indices périphériques
Au Sud de la boucle, Saint-Maur a révélé des témoins importants de l'époque néolithique,.....

Le témoin le plus remarquable de cette carrière est un puits à eau hémicylindrique et son échelle d'étiage


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Note added at 3 hrs (2006-04-02 20:50:22 GMT)
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http://www.uiowa.edu/~zooarch/bffoodshare2003.pdf
found note above translating temoins as 'evidence'....

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Note added at 3 hrs (2006-04-02 20:50:33 GMT)
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http://www.uiowa.edu/~zooarch/bffoodshare2003.pdf
found note above translating temoins as 'evidence'....


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juliebarba
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Local time: 17:01
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signs of having been quarried


Explanation:
More context might help. Where are these "blocs"? Are they just littered about the countryside, in which case bearing marks would show they had been quarried rather than formed naturally.

xxxBourth
Local time: 18:01
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Peter Enright: I think your translation reads well Alan Campbell
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agree  Cervin: With Bourth and peterenright
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evidence of quarrying


Explanation:
I'd go with your own suggestion.

As I read it, the "rainures de polissage, cupules, sillons, glissières" are in part evidence of manufacturing of stone tools, in addition to being "témoins de carrière" --i.e., both "quarrying" (extracting the stones from the bed) and manufacturing took place at this site.

Christopher Crockett
Local time: 12:01
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Thanks for your answer. Yes, I think you're right - later on in the text, it says that the site was used as a sandstone quarry. So I've kept my translation. Thanks for your input.
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