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vase caréné

English translation: carinated vase


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French term or phrase:vase caréné
English translation:carinated vase
Entered by: Gabrielle Leyden
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09:46 Sep 17, 2008
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Science - Archaeology / medieval pottery
French term or phrase: vase caréné
A vase (or bowl) that tapers from some point above, below, or near the middle to its base, which is smaller, like the keel (carène) of a ship. See picture on www.archeologie-et-patrimoine.com/ArtBlog/ArcheoBlog/Cultur... (possibly PDF - the ending was cut off the page) TIA! GL
Gabrielle Leyden
Local time: 18:02
carinated vase
Explanation:
See the email I sent to you for more explanation. Now that I read your post here, I see that you already understand that the term refers to the keel of a boat. In archaeology, in English, we use the term "carinated" or "carination". Or, depending on the context, you could say, as someone else proposed, "with a carinated body".
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Magen O'Farrell
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Local time: 18:02
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thanks to everyone
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Summary of answers provided
5 +1carinated vaseMagen O'Farrell
4 +1bowl with a carinated bodyPatrick Fischer
5carinated ("keel-like" or "ridged") vase or bowl
Christopher Crockett
2streamlined/carinate(d) vasemimi 254


  

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bowl with a carinated body


Explanation:
with a wide, tall neck and carinated body
http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/ho/02/waa/ho_64.286.5.htm

Patrick Fischer
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Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in FrenchFrench

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Christopher Crockett: Works, *if* it's a question of a "bowl" rather than a "vase" (in English). Thanks for the link --now I have some vague idea of what this thing might look like.
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streamlined/carinate(d) vase


Explanation:

caréné: carinate
1. having a keel or projecting longitudinal lmedial line on the lower surface

caréné: streamlined
2. specialement conçu, destiné pour offrir peu de resitance à l'air

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mimi 254
Local time: 17:02
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench

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neutral  Christopher Crockett: I don't think that "streamlined" helps, here.
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carinated vase


Explanation:
See the email I sent to you for more explanation. Now that I read your post here, I see that you already understand that the term refers to the keel of a boat. In archaeology, in English, we use the term "carinated" or "carination". Or, depending on the context, you could say, as someone else proposed, "with a carinated body".

Magen O'Farrell
France
Local time: 18:02
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thanks to everyone

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agree  Christopher Crockett: This seems to be the correct technical term. I only suggest some additional explanation, if Gabrielle's audience is made up of non-specialists.
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carinated ("keel-like" or "ridged") vase or bowl


Explanation:
Magen's answer is certainly correct, but I've never seen this term before --however, it's not really my field and it may well be quite common and well known among archeologists and certainly among pottery specialists.

So, if your audience is not familiar with this rather technical term, you might want to add a bit of explanation, e.g., "keel-like" or "ridged" (in quotes).

Even this, however, will be difficult for the non-specialist to envision.

Your link

http://www.archeologie-et-patrimoine.com/ArtBlog/ArcheoBlog/...

doesn't work for me so, in fact, I have no real idea what the artifact looks like --perhaps "bowl" might be more appropriate than "vase."

Here's the Oxford English Dictionary on

CARINATE, verb

Hence carinated ppl. a., keeled, ridged; also of pottery (cf. CARINATION); = CARINATE a.; carinating ppl. a., ? forming a carina; carination, a keel-like formation, ridging resembling a keel.

1698 J. PETIVER in Phil. Trans. XX. 324 The Stalk is round and carinated.
1880 WATSON in Jrnl. Linn. Soc. XV. No. 84. 228 Two threads whose prominence slightly carinates each whorl.
1788 GRAY in Phil. Trans. LXXIX. 28 Carinated scales..a character of venomous Serpents.
1846 DANA Zooph. 384 The twelve large carinating lamellæ.
1880 WATSON in Jrnl. Linn. Soc. XV. No. 82. 117 Each whorl..projects in an angular carination.
1881 ibid. No. 87. 411 The line of the tubercles forms a rather acute carination.
1936 Oxoniensia I. 49 This contained pottery of the first century, including a carinated bowl with cordons.
Ibid. 60 Bowl with heavy moulded rim and slight carination at base.
1937 Proc. Prehist. Soc. III. 338 The commonest grave-vessel is a plain carinated bowl with pronounced shoulder. 1963 H. N. SAVORY in Foster & Alcock Culture & Environment iii. 35 The fine, carinated bowls of Clegyr-boia.

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Note added at 3 hrs (2008-09-17 12:49:14 GMT)
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Presumably Patrick's link gives us some vague idea of what your artifact might look like (?).

Christopher Crockett
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